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58447995 No.58447995 [Reply] [Original]

How do I go about it without any kind of education in business, finance or accounting? How much should I know? Spammers and shit posters stay the fuck out. It would be great to have generals in this board that actually focus on rigorous finance, business management, accounting and the stuff you find in colleges.



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58447966 No.58447966 [Reply] [Original]

>29
>€3700 wagebucks a month
>€1000 monthly expenses
>€10k savings
>My own flat that's €200k

Is spending €450 on hand made spanish shoes a sound decision?

>> No.58447969

>>58447966
>Is spending €450 on hand made spanish shoes a sound decision?
Anon a 200 € Nike or other plastic shitty shoes last a couple of years.
Hand made shoes last forever

>> No.58447974

>>58447966
shoes first. i bought my budapest hand sewed shoes in 2010 and they are still good. i got the shoe soles changed several times though.

>> No.58447994

I'd cheap out and get like two pairs of Meermins or similar that are €200-something and still pretty high quality. You don't want to wear the same pair everyday with these. They wear faster when they're perspired heavily in.
>>58447969
>Hand made shoes last forever
Yeah but resoles still start at like €200 so it's not exactly the buy once - cry one situation everyone makes it to be.
I've got a pair of Ed Meier's sitting next to me. The bastards get very little wear because I wear barefoot shoes like a proper autist.



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58447963 No.58447963 [Reply] [Original]

Why are bitcoiners like this? You don't seriously believe this do you?

>> No.58447967
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58447967

>>58447963
Perhaps you didn’t get the Bitcoin-whale-insiders-info-can-manipulate-freely-during-low-volume-weekend-and-holidays-to-whatever-price-just-print-tether memo?



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58447952 No.58447952 [Reply] [Original]

>2010-2013: X20,000+
>2013-2017: X40+
>2017-2020: X2.5
>2021-2024: X1
if you think the current BTC three year triple top crab is a result of high rates, why has it been flatlining since it's inception.
yes. look at the graph. BTC has not been INCREASING it's gains since it's inception. it has been literally LOSING logarithmic momentum since 2010.
what is your logical, not TA magic-lines and sheit, for believing it's going to restart the momentum it has been losing for 14 straight years?

>> No.58447961

>>58447952
ETFs/institutional support will get it out of the crab. I predict 2.5x between now and 2030.

>> No.58447968

>>58447961
nasdaq does that in 10 years, hardly worth the risks involved.

>> No.58447972

>>58447968
Risk depends on a person's situation.
For someone like me who lives as if they're on food stamps and will never have kids or even date, then I might as well go all in because nothing matters.
If someone wants to have fun and raise kids, then I would agree with you that BTC is not worth the risk.

>> No.58447989

>>58447972
other side of risk is reward. BTC does no display high risk-reward ratio characteristics, besides short term volatility.
if i wanted high risk-reward, i'd invest into a small AI startup. with BTC, the risk is high but the reward prospect looks dull. or invest in some very lowcap shitcoin.
my personal opinion, perhaps there is something i'm missing entirely.



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58447950 No.58447950 [Reply] [Original]

It seems to be getting infinite momentum from Ilia appearing on stage with Jensen Huang.



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58447943 No.58447943 [Reply] [Original]

>email verification
>Link FUD threads stay up for weeks
>Zero normal link threads
Wow, the jannies saved /biz/!!!

>> No.58447946

>>58447943
ripplets are completely gone tho lol...kind of eerie. goes to show how inorganic it all was.

>> No.58447997

>he posted in every one of those threads

m8... get outside a bit more often



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58447931 No.58447931 [Reply] [Original]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Fj0zRmEWYc&t=18s

Can /biz/ do better?

>> No.58447958

>>58447931
kek - saw this yesterday on Twitter. AM looking forward to seeing that film 'Finding the Money' it's lifted from

>> No.58447962

>>58447931
At least he’s not Je-



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58447905 No.58447905 [Reply] [Original]

How to learn salesmanship?

I just got a job at a big massage chain as a front desk person, but we get comission every time we get customers to sign up for our membership program, which just makes massages cheaper & you get a free hour of massage every month. Our usual clientele is 40-60 years old and it is in a pretty upper-class mostly white suburb so people are pretty wealthy here. During holiday seasons apparently its not uncommon for people to make like $1500 just off comission in a month, on top of our standard hourly rate, so I want to know how I can maximize my skills in this regard



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58447893 No.58447893 [Reply] [Original]

Could someone explain to me how Margin/Leverages trading actually works?
I read the FAQ of ByBit's page but it's very over the head stuff numbers and percentages without proper examples given to a basic newbie.

Say I have $1000 and decide to buy BTC with x3 leverage, how bad are the maintenance fees? Do I have to have money on account balance where it's taken or is the money taken directly from long position investment holding?
And basically that buying with leverages in mind is race against the clock hoping for good growth before shorting, do I understand that right?

There was some beginner's thread to crypto week ago or so which makes me realize how little there is to help truly new people into trading, which seems counterintuitive from what people want aka growth.

>> No.58447915

>>58447893
Don't use margin trading as a retail (none institutional / pleb) customer. You are statistically more likely to lose as opposed to gain.

>> No.58447923

>>58447893
Since your a cluessless newfag top buyer you probably won't listen to anyone telling you to not use leverage.
You'll have to learn the lesson yourself first. Just buy something for 100$ and then see what happens. Anything we tell you now you will ignore.

>> No.58447970

>>58447915
Why is that? I'm asking for information on how it actually works, not why I would lose magically if I were to do it.

>>58447923
I'm not in a hurry anywhere and want to learn terms and trading. I did buy BTC 2 weeks ago for 1000 dollars when it was at 64k without using any leverage, I can just hold indefinitely and didn't panic sell or anything when it dipped this week hard.
But even then, if and when BTC will rise up to 100k, with my 1000 dollar investment, that's only 500 dollar profit. At best I can add another 1000 now and make it 1000, but dude, really when it reaches 100k from 64k?..

>> No.58447991

>>58447970
>>58447893
Leverage is usually better fit for Daytraders because the commision and interest rate that it uses usually is a risk for long term holders. Leverage essentially lets you work with xtimes your money, so if you have $1000 and use x3 leverage you're working with $3000, so say if BTC went up 10% you'd be up 300 instead of just 100. It works sideways though, if it goes down 10% you're down 300 instead of 100. The reason anons are warning you is because of liquidation.
As you'd imagine, whoever is lending you money can't really afford to lose it. So you're taking $2000 in credit, so if your investment went down by 50%, your position would be automatically liquidated (usually earlier to account for interests) you would lose the entirety of your $1000, instead of just $500 without leverage, and if the price went up, it wouldn't matter, because your investment was already terminated, as opposed to no leverage, which allows you to hold through the pain.
You should only leverage in short term (really short term, maximum 2 days) or if you're 100% sure price will only go up from your investment start (and then you can close the position (or sell) if you see it starting to go down back to your starting point). Because otherwise you risk losing everything, as opposed to losing a percentage of your initial investment. Interest rates vary, binance for example uses an hourly rate of around 0.01% of your lent money (so you'd be paying 2 bucks for every hour you're using leverage and not closing your position, and giving back said lent money)



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58447889 No.58447889 [Reply] [Original]

Ironically, Biz has made me some money over the years whether it was finding an actual gem that did a 100x or selling once you see nothing but green dildos and wojak posts at BTC ATH's.

I appreciate you boys, so here is some free alpha. Consider it my own version of philanthropy.

ArcBlock (ABT) IS the next solona type run.
>currently 232 on CMC
>Layer 1
>$300M mkt cap
>100M CS 186M max supply
>One stop shop for ALL things blockchain
>They build shit daily it feels like, and it's pretty badass stuff desu
>Super transparent team and founder
>Active community

Currently on a dip to $3 from $3.80
If you missed SOL, if you missed ETH, if you missed MATIC, if you missed KAS, this is your chance to undo the pain you feel.

God speed m8

>> No.58447985

>>58447889
>>They build shit daily it feels like, and it's pretty badass stuff desu
like what?

>> No.58447990

>8 cents half a year ago
>3 dollar today and already on coinbase.
fuck you



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58447887 No.58447887 [Reply] [Original]

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58447866 No.58447866 [Reply] [Original]

What are we buying , and why is it another bottle of vodka? I've been really struggling to find pretty much any place or community where I can find some ins. What do?

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58447871

>>58447866
I just bought a skateboard after 8 years off, just spent the weekend shredden and rippen. Meet me at the park broski we'll drink 40s and rip slappies

>> No.58447872

>>58447866
Look at dextools trending/hot pairs. For more degen plays look towards lower mcaps (this comes with more risk) or look towards higher mcaps that're more substantiated (less risk, less reward)

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58447875

Okay eg chart reversal is going hard.



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58447855 No.58447855 [Reply] [Original]

Im going to put my entire networth ($500,000) in MSTR this monday after seeing this fucking video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XiBG39SQy3Q

Fucking clown economy. Im fucking done with this shit. Im making it into 7 figures by xmas.

>> No.58447890

Could have bought last week at nearly $1k and been up 20% already.

>> No.58447938

>>58447855
Why invest in MSTR instead of BTC directly?

>> No.58447957

>>58447938
Up until very recently things like retirement accounts couldn't get direct exposure to BTC. Now with the ETFs they can, so things like MSTR almost certainly won't keep performing like this.

>> No.58447978

>>58447957
That makes sense; I forgot about IRAs since I don't see myself living past 60.
What is the point of non-IRA retirement accounts? Do they also offer some type of tax benefit? Or is it just that companies give employees safe harbors or match their contributions up to a certain point, so it's like free money, but you're forced into their system?

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58447983

>>58447855
NGMI



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58447831 No.58447831 [Reply] [Original]

It's memecoin fever season again so why not look for gems to trow a buck on and see what happens? I've always loved a bet

Found this one on the base network and finally one meme that's funny and original in this world, so i though why the hell not?

Not FA just wanted to share my thoughts once again

found on X: https://twitter.com/villainbased



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58447790 No.58447790 [Reply] [Original]

what's this pattern called?

>> No.58447814

>>58447790
dont listen to biz

>> No.58447816

>>58447790
the "Canadian Gold reserve"



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58447778 No.58447778 [Reply] [Original]

>bought at 73k
>dumps
>sold at 57k
>pumps
fuck crypto this shit is rigged, will stick to stonks

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58447803

haven't you learned from Michael Saylor yet you retard swingies

>> No.58447808

my folio is up 40% since 57k cause I sold the top and bought the bottom. Stay poor

>> No.58447811

we know true suffering bro

>> No.58447825

>>58447778
It's not crypto's fault that you're a pussy.

>> No.58447846

are you guys for real? I can hardly imagine people on a finance board making such terrible decisions

>t. lost 5 figures to DBC, REQ, DBI



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58447770 No.58447770 [Reply] [Original]

WALLA AND JUST LIKE THAT BTC WILL NEVER GO BELOW 64K AGAIN

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58447807

>>58447770
Classic lift to double penner

>> No.58447828

>>58447770
It's almost too easy. Anyone who didn't buy sub-$60k is mentally challenged.



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58447746 No.58447746 [Reply] [Original]

To see a Tesla burn at 50 mil and lambo burn at 100 mil amirite?

First car coin to appeal the masses?



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58447740 No.58447740 [Reply] [Original]

bear status : taken
64k resistance : collapsed
next ATH : 150k

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58447892

>>58447740
its our time now this market is ours

load up for the biggest run in history

>> No.58447899

>>58447740
Bull trap.
Next stop $35k



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58447733 No.58447733 [Reply] [Original]

Rate this chart.
Looks like /biz/ is dying. Where is the action at?

>> No.58447734
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58447734

>>58447733
Also 5y timeline. Yikes, I remember buying every coin in 2021 there was a thread for and making 20x's like you wouldn't believe