/fa/ - Fashion

Hope everyone sleeps tight. Post lume, if you can.

Kofe time.

No it isn't.

Never forget.

Do you guys keep your more valuable watches in safe deposit boxes? Do you use post office safe boxes or bank safe boxes, and what is the difference?

I like small seconds

>>18106290
I bet your bf thinks that way too.

My Haiku poem dedicated to Grand Seiko:

Precision crafted,
Grand Seiko's hands mark time's dance,
Elegance in steel.

My classical poem dedicated to Grand Seiko:

In the realm of time, a legend unfolds,
Grand Seiko, master of craftsmanship untold.
With precision and grace, its hands do dance,
In symphony with moments, its beauty enhance.

From the workshops of Japan, a legacy grand,
Where skilled hands create, with precision in hand.
Each watch a masterpiece, a work of art divine,
A symbol of luxury, where craftsmanship does shine.

In stainless steel or gold, its design pristine,
A symbol of elegance, in every scene.
With movements so precise, each second a delight,
Grand Seiko, a watch that commands the light.

And as time marches on, Grand Seiko stands tall,
A beacon of excellence, for one and for all.
In the world of watches, it reigns supreme,
A timeless beauty, a horological dream.

>>18106269
as a real watch enthusiast, I only buy various limited edition Rolexes for optimum price retention and keep them vacuum-sealed and anti-mag shielded in an offshore bank safe box. I don't have a car and I daily drive a Casio. I hope one day my non-existent children can inherit my 2023 Autism Awareness Rolex, which I'm sure will be considered a timeless classic

Am I the only one who's not impressed by top tier luxury watches anymore? I feel like modern watchmaking relies way too much on CAD and it just shows in the final products. I usually hate that word, but pic related is "soulless" to me. Same with most ALS, JLC, PP, Rolex, Omega, whatever. I can almost see the Autodesk UI just by looking at these watches.

>>18106310
>>18106314
gay

>>18106328
Does hand finishing make it up to you or is that still not enough?

>>18106340
>does grating cheese on a frozen pizza makes it fine cuisine?

Bros

>>18106348

>>18106320
Wow, thanks for your retarded shitpost.

>>18106269
I keep mine in a bank and they're insured. It also covers the potential loss of value too which is nice. I don't wear them often and when I do I don't wind them (it wears out the movement). I just like the investment and elitist aspect of watches.

>>18106348
HAHAHAHAHA WHAT????!!! A WATCH FOR A LITTLE GIRL??? YOU SHOULD BUY IT AND WEAR IT BRO THAT WOULD BE SO QUIRKY
A GROWN MAN WEARING A LITTLE GIRL'S WATCH!!!!!!!!!!!! LMAO

Kofe time again frens.

>>18106364
Holy Based.
Shopping Time.

>>18106363
Elaborate please.

>>18106376
Never mind, i can see it's the Hello Kitty watch from above. At least it has a japanese movement.

>>18106363

>>18106382
Meta shit right here

Based TGV.

>>18106391
Hi tristano, you fucking rat. I know you browse here. We didn't forget about your buying subscribers and burning all your old friends. Also ironic that you call out Teddy for becoming an AD while you shamelessly push shitters on everyone. I hope you get robbed by a nigger in philadelphia.

>>18106348
more accurate than the Onions Lange & Onions quadruple basedbillon for $750,000 kek

>>18106416
Sup ac3, how's the bluesy?

yeah I think it's going to be a skmei summer, boys

>>18106391
TGV and Bulbasaur both make the most boring videos on watches I have ever seen. It's impressive.

>>18106435
No, that's Theo and Harris.

>>18106433
ew wtf LMAOOO

>>18106436
For sure. Two twats talking about nothing for minutes on end
Teddy has great videography but they are just shuffled top 10 lists over and over
TGV at least says something in his videos but they are overly flowery pretentious prose on purpose.

>>18106435
uBlock might as well start blocking 90% of watch channels as advertising, not much else to them

>>18106355
But why a fly?

>>18106436
>Michael (curator of the Theo and Harris vintage watch shop!) Says both his co-hosts will be moving on with other projects
It's going to be even more boring now.
At least Federico has some experience and knowledge despite being boring as shit, this guy does nothing but shill and repeat what you've already been hearing from everyone else.
Watch-youtube is grim.

>>18106451
>Watch-youtube is grim.
There are still those videos where watchmakers service old watches in complete silence. Those are interesting.

is the seamaster a good everyday watch?

>>18106468
That's not a Seamaster, it's clearly a Fifty Fathoms.

>>18106451
Watch youtube is just endless (not so covert anymore) marketing towards you. Always pushing some new shit, the next best GADA watch etc. Some of it can be interesting, like vintages, but like this nigger here >>18106457 said, the watchmaking/repair channels are the best.

>>18106468
it's so fucking ugly, even for a tool watch

>>18106470
>Watch youtube is just endless (not so covert anymore) marketing towards you
same thing as fragrance youtube. all the big channels are just marketing and the only useful ones are tiny in comparison

>>18106468
im regarded. cant decide between gray and white dial.

>>18106473
white

>>18106473
White was the most hyped before being joined by green. Blue and black are the most popular. Silver is the least popular.

Silver looks really good on a blue rubber strap, FWIW

azfinetime is based

>>18106348
Better than Rolex honestly.

>>18106445
Probably some occult shit.

>>18106445
It symbolizes corruption and decay, core values of the brand.

Chronometer Gada watches under $3,000?

>>18106513
I don't know of that brand.
Look into Tossit or something if you want a cosc certified one.

>>18106513
Under 3k just buy quartz.

One of my goals when I retire is get one of these. Is expensive but I like how timeless the design is. Eventually I will give it to one of my sons as a family relic, Is way more expensive than it should, but it's part of its legacy i guess.

>>18106518
retarded take

>>18106538
good morning sir

>>18106541
wait indians like cartiers? that's new to me. fuck. Any reasons why?

>>18106518
>Under 3k just buy quartz.
This. You're just going to get Chinese made junk at this price point.
I think you're being generous at $3k, though. I'd actually suggest you can't get a decent mechanical watch under $5k, if you're buying used.

>>18106545
Right now I’m looking at a 5500 air king for $4,250, an Iwc aquatimer 2000 for $3,390, a 2021 Iwc portofino for $3,900, an 2017 aquaterra for $4,300, and a 2022 BB bronze for $3,500. Any takes on what the best pick would be value wise?

>>18106515
>I don't know of that brand
>gada
I know its stupid but it means Go Anywhere Do Anything watch. He should have just said an everyday watch like a normal person.

>>18106526
This is just my opinion but this watch looks better on this strap than on the bracelet.

>>18106538
I saw one in two-tone IRL not long ago, they look great live. though I hear they scratch easily

>>18106357
How exactly does the insurance work, do you have to declare to the bank what you have in the box and have it appraised somehow?

Im new here, what is /WT/ opinions of IWC watches, are they good for their price? or are there better alternatives for that kind of pilot design type watches.

>>18106468
I'm very pleased with mine. It's beautiful, keeps good time, has a display back, everything about it is finished to perfection in my opinion. I went with the white dial black bezel, it's a very tasteful combination the contrast is nice and makes it very legible. Lume is great too, ways to distinguish hands and indices when having a piss in the night. Bracelet is very good quality and finished nicely, very high quality clasp.

>>18106471
Wrong.

>>18106473
The silver is beautiful, has a very rugged unique look, more masculine than the other colours I find. The green one is really nice too. I went for the white as the contrast is just so good especially when the sun hits it right. I find the classic black and blue models to be rather boring compared to the newer ones.

>>18106588
Most of their lineup is pretty good. The Ingeneur is overpriced for what it is and the Portuguiser is a big dinner plate that is known to make wristlets look like kids wearing their dad's watch. Other than that and being run by Richemont there's nothing wrong with them.

>>18106468
This is a shitpost that kinda leads to an interesting question - What watch is legitimately the sea master? Obviously Omega makes a watch called Seamaster but is it ACTUALLY the sea master? I'd bet Panerai watches have legitimately been on more diving missions than Seamasters.

Who is the metal gshock for? It doesn't seem like an exercise watch because it's too heavy, but it's also not really a formal watch. Is it just an autist casual?

>>18106608
>metal gshock
>autist casual
sounds about right

Wristwatches are gay, neckwatches are in.

>>18106607

>>18106607
Omega Ploprof

>1500$ for this ugly quartz shitter
lmao

>>18106608
For me.
I like it.
Simple as.

>>18106619
I never liked tag watches desu

>>18106617
>slabpig

>>18106588
Overpriced and unforgettable. Your dollar goes further elsewhere
>>18106617
Slips beneath all but the tightest of dress cuffs
>>18106619
Just when tag heuer was starting to not become universally disliked, they remind us how much they fucking suck

>>18106631
bro you've been swimming for nearly 30 minutes!

>>18106633
I'm gonna swim until the bracelet fits!

>>18106608
yes

>>18106577
I just have it on the strap because im waiting on the bracelet to come but i do like it more than i expected to.

>>18106619
Shit, they're quartz? I thought they were at least automatic. Talk about no redeeming qualities.

>>18106639
Based Giga Chad.

Bros I just got a Sinn and it's been running +1.5 for a week, but after changing the date due to month change, it went to +-0 the following day. Did I break something?

>>18106700
Should've gotten a Casio.

>>18106681
the originals were quartz as well.

I have no problem with them re-making a famous model but charging 1500+ and slapping a streetwear name all over them is just stupid.

>>18106575
Didn’t realize there’s a general for this

>>18106526
>>18106473
>>18106599
>>18106631
>>18106700
UGLY OVERCOMPLICATED PIECE OF SHIT

>>18106367
insect behavior

>>18106227
Nice loom, i like big triangles

>>18106720
>a steel three hander is too complicated for me

>>18106728
Bro might wanna look into flik flak

>>18106607
The Sea Master was originally designed as the Weekend kick around watch. Omega originally had a fully dedicated dive watch named the Marina made in 1932. So the Sea Master just needed some water resistance.

Panerai has historically had some serious dive missions (see Perezcope's in depth articles!). But I believe Omega objectively has had more dives. They were standard issues for the British diving outfits before Rolex came along and just gave their watches away. The split of going from Rolex/Omega to CWC is also unique too.

>>18106599
How is your seamaster? I kind of like the watch itself, but would instantly want to get a metal Forster band to swap out the tank treads.

>>18106588
Richemont has been reducing the overall quality and value at the price they are demanding. They have been doing them dirty much like what theyve been doing to Panerai.

>>18106617
What the hell is this thing? 12000m of water resistance is ridiculous

I just want something that looks like this. Why is no one making these anymore?

>>18106314
I don't understand why ChatGPT always writes the exact same shit. It has access to all poetry and lyrics in human history, and it's literally always the exact same structure and same words and ryhmes even.

Here you go Hamilton fans

>>18106740
They do, you just arent looking for them

>>18106738
james cameron strapped it on his submersible and took it to the bottom of the mariana trench. it's a technical feat and marketing vehicle

>>18106736
Really happy with it. Makes me happy everytime I wear it never get bored of staring at it. I really like the bracelet I think it looks very classy and it's unique.

>>18106718
I mean, it looks interesting visually.

What is the least gay mechanical hand wind dress watch?

Why doesnt anyone mention how loud the ticking is on the speedmaster?

>>18106608

>>18106783
Whatever it is youre not wearing

>>18106765
Nice! It is unique, I will give you that.

>>18106823
Look at this dude's old butch lesbian haircut.

>>18106608
it looks way better than the other ones. 167g isnt that heavy, plenty of people workout with a dive watch which is a similar weight.

>>18106828
Who works out with a dive watch?

>>18106831
I do, i mostly just lift weights but i'll jump rope and such with them on. I'm not a little girl though so even my heaviest watch isnt something i notice the weight of much.

luv this meme like you wouldn’t believe

>>18106832
you aint do shit

>>18106844
Can you do videos of spins?

>>18106844
This does seem really satisfying to spin

>>18106827
He's a fucking lardass too lmao. Average Paneristi lol.

looks like weekends back on the menu, boys

>>18106832
I agree. I don't notice my metal Gshock at all day to day. If that amount of weight is a serious consideration you need to consider working out.

>>18106718
So you have a plastic fetish? Tell us more about your kinks.

what are the odds a local watch and jewelry repair guy has an ultrasonic cleaner and can do a service on a 50 year old king seiko?

>>18106915
whats needing to be done ?

>>18106915
Ultrasonic cleaners arent expensive, the servicing would depend.

>>18106915
The fuck am I looking at? First gen AI?

cool
>>18106921
faceted crystal

also manga casioak

>>18106608
These would look so much better if they didnt have all the useless text on the front. Do i really need bluetooth, multi band, tough solar, shock resist, protection, etc staring me in the face all the time when wearing one

>>18106923
more like borderlands casioak

>>18106923
Remember 2001 when cell shading skins was the shit in Half Life?

>>18106917
needs to be cleaned first and foremost, it has dirt inside the crystal and it hasn't been cleaned in 50 years

secondly it needs a regular servicing/oiling, since i presume it has not been cleaned in 50 years either
>>18106921
early 70s faceted crystal on a seiko, it's a super cool aesthetic, they're fairly expensive, 600-1000ish if they're in the west and fully redone, but like $100 if you are lucky and win one on yahoo

>>18106930
that looks like it needs a new crystal

>>18106930

>>18106930
That seems like something a respectable watch service place can do. You can always ask what they service and if they can work on the movement.

If not, you could take it on yourself.

so why did it die out?

>>18106936
The fuck I know. Why?

>>18106932
you can theoretically clean that, i'd like to try that rather than trying to track down a crystal which is going to be a long process. it at least can't get much worse with a light polishing of it while i look for a new crystal.
>>18106935
i would rather practice on something more common/less of a pain to get than a top of the line JDM only king seiko. i have no issues opening up my slav watches, they cost $20 so who cares. i feel a bit intimidated by something that's more advanced like this.

>>18106943
Does the movement differ from the other KS movements ?

>>18106949
no, it's identical to any other 52KS of that era

this was just a wacky model with faceted crystals and interesting colors, but with way more higher end features than the typical lordmatic faceted crystal watches you see

>>18106955
Is seiko Christian? What's up with LORDmatic?

>>18106936
i dont get it, it looks tasteful, different and its seiko. maybe people thought it were too tacky I guess? people nowadays don't like fun stuff.

>>18106943
>trying to track down a crystal
Have a custom one made.

>>18106526
Is that castle rock?

Thinking of getting a Speedy Reduced, a local seller has a really well maintained one for a good price and it fits my babby wrist like a glove. My concerns:
>Is the movement a ticking time bomb? It was serviced maybe 5 years ago and it runs well but I've heard bad things about these modular movements
>Only 30m WR makes me not even want to wash my hands with it on. Is it worth worrying about? I'm never going to swim with it that's for sure but I don't want an inopportune splash to fuck it up.

>>18106977
it is

>>18107002
rain and hand washing isn

>>18107023
>rain and hand washing isnt going to be a problem for almost any watch.

Every day I fall more out of love with the Speedmaster. Ever since I tried it on, something changed in me. How could something inanimate manage to feel so devoid of soul?

>>18107049
Try on a Rolex.

name a better moonphase

>>18107069
One that's not for ants

>>18107069
I lilery cant

Should I buy a BB54 or the upcoming Seiko 62mas release (SPB451) this summer?

>>18107105
I think you already know the correct answer.

>>18107105
I somehow hate the 4:30 date more than the standard date at 3 from the previous models. The case wears incredibly well though, and IMO looks better than the slab case of the black bay.

>>18107113
seiko - I feel more attached to the brand and it's like 3 times cheaper. However, its accuracy will suck balls.
tudor - Is more accurate, costs more, is a "poor man's rolex" and somehow feels like more of a cope even though it costs more.
i dunno

>>18107002
The movement isn't a ticking time bomb; it's just a modular movement. If you send it to Omega to service, they'll charge you what they normally charge for chronographs and you'll get back one in like-new condition. Whether or not they service the chronograph module or swap it out for a new one is irrelevant, though this might be a concern if you service it with an independent watchmaker (it varies, essentially, depending on the watchmaker). The chronograph module for this model is well respected, and the watches are generally well regarded for their expected performance. I'd start from the assumption that the watch needs a service when you get it, so factor that into the cost of ownership. 30m WR is fine, but only if the watch has been pressure tested recently (i.e. within 1 year of usage). If you dive regularly, you'd get your watch pressure tested every year, and if it needs new gaskets, it needs new gaskets. 30m is more than enough for daily use as well as swimming; the rule is 'do not operate the chronograph pushers or the crown while the watch is submerged.' If you stick to that rule, then the watch is fine; I've taken my Speedy pro swimming and it's fine. Splashing won't fuck it up.

>>18107049
It happens; don't worry, you'll find a watch that sings to you louder every day instead of retreating away from you. Be thankful you live in an era of 'infinite' possibilities. When I was young, we were limited by what the local jeweler had or could source. Now you can get anything from any country....

>>18107118
Why not save for Rolex? The prices on the grey market continue to drop gradually, and eventually you will be able to just get one at an authorized AD. You've got nothing to lose. You have to go with your heart, but never spend money on a cope for anything. You'll always be unhappy, and probably end up spending more money later on on what you really wanted in the first place.

>>18107105
save your money and buy a real watch idiot lol

>Christopher Ward
> see their catalog and reviews
> really like their pilot watches
> almost all of them under $1100
> automatic as well
ok what is the catch? those prices are insane

>>18107131
i already have a planet ocean, does that count? i kinda wanted an aqua terra or an OP

>>18107132
What do you mean? Too expensive? Or did you fall for the brand bullshit where they price $500 watches at $5000 so this looks cheap to you?

>>18107118
The black bays are excellent watches. Nothing wrong with them. If there was something wrong with them they couldn't be the one thing keeping Tudor in business.

>>18107132
Sometimes I really wonder if Chrisopher Ward is going to become the next Rolex. Not all of their watches are home runs and obviously it's hard to get that level of marketing notoriety, but their watches are really well finished and their in house movements go far beyond the usual slightly modified sellitas most brands pass off as in house.

>>18107129
Saying it will be fixed or replaced at service doesnt exatly mean its not just waiting to fail. Service from Omega is like $800.

>>18106320
jesus christ dude, when you kill yourself save your family the trouble and do it train indian style, also find a way to stream it.

>>18107140
>but their watches are really well finished and their in house movements go far beyond the usual slightly modified sellitas most brands pass off as in house.
I was told that the twelve was a terrible watch and christopher ward isnt worth the money.

>>18107143
The problem is that they're all mall watches, every single element of the watch is overdesigned in the same cheap mall watch way. Might as well buy yourself a $500 fashion watch instead.

>>18107143
Integrated bracelet watches are a meme and not to be taken seriously.

>>18107145
How is the sealander line mall watches?

>>18107145
i dont get the meaning of mall watch, overdesigned?

>>18107140
>Chrisopher Ward is going to become the next Rolex.
Don't they sell CW at macy's?

>>18107145
I find it hard to find watches that i find nice looking, especially in purple. Especially with a nice unobtrusive logo without a lot of text.

>>18107146
It does seem like it should just have normal lugs and a bracelet but i pretty much always want a bracelet over a band so not that big of a deal.

>>18107148
It's basically like they had 5 people designing every single element of a watch and it all looks cheap and "futuristic" in some outdated way. Compare with any classic watch that stood the test of time and they will have simple and timeless designs.

An expensive watch can look like a mall watch too, just look at those horrendous new Pateks with the asphalt dials.

>>18107141
Fine. It's not waiting to fail. Why would it? Both the base movement (ETA 2892-A2 )and the chronograph module (Dubois-Depraz 2020) are excellent in that price category. I don't understand why you expect it to shit the bed...

>>18107148
Maybe a cultural background issue; I think Anon meant this: In the heyday of the shopping mall, one could get inexpensive watches (i.e. 20-200$) which had quartz movements but most importantly copied aesthetic elements from higher-end expensive watches. Invicta, Fossil, and other brands were well-known 'mall watches'. The finishing was not good, the movements were pedestrian and varying in quality and reliability, and essentially the function of the watch was solely to tell time without looking offensive to the untrained eye. Does that help?

>>18107151
Pic related. You can at least see that the elements are more expensively made though.

>>18107149
No? I don't know what Macy's you're shopping in that stocks microbrand watches.

>>18107154
That watch looks excellent and you're neber going to see proper textured dials on mall watches. The polishing is too good, the lines are too good, it doesn't have a tacky cheap looking sunburst dial, it doesn't have a big ugly bezel that doesn't move, it has unusual but functional complications that aren't distracting.

The mall watch equivalent of this would be quartz, all brushed surfaces, ugly sunburst dial wilth blemishes in it, a 24 hour subdial that can't be set independently, a big fixed bezel with big knobby minute markers, and they'd put it on a hollow endlink bracelet with a pressed clasp sized with pins and collars.

>>18107105
fuck bb, but that seiko will cost probably over 1k and doesn't even have a signed crown
bracelet is going to be dogshit too

>>18107132
You know the meme-tier argument of fashion watches about "cutting the middleman" ?
Well that's what CW actually does by not having any physical retail and doing all their distribution directly.
You basically buy them at wholesale price. In a retail outlet of any kind, you'd typically have a 1.8 margin.

>>18107049
Omega has kind of become the McDonald's of luxury watches. The speedmaster and seamaster are like the McChicken and Mcdouble of the luxury market - they're available for anyone who walks in, they're relatively not that expensive, they're easy to recommend to people and inoffensive, they're recognizable, all of this makes them easy to take for granted. Anybody who wants one can and does get one. It's pedestrian.

>>18107226
>You have to let the Rolex AD fuck your wife before having a good watch
nty

>>18107135
>nothing wrong with BBs
Snoflake hands are hideous

>>18107232
Or you could just buy a used Rolex. Which is what you should do with an Omega anyway, never buy a new Omega.

>>18107237
I mean other than the obvious. Nobody likes snowflake hands or fake rivets but they're going to die on that hill so bitching about it is useless.

>>18107105
Seiko, but get it regulated after you buy it.

>can't tell the difference in finishing between a $300 watch and a $1000 watch
It's over for me, isn't it?

>>18107132
This looks like a copy of those new 'modern' Calatravas.

>>18107245
Finishing is just a word they told all the youtubers to say but doesn't actually mean anything.

>>18107245
it's all bullshit anyway, be it a 35€ chinkshit or a 5k slab of steel, it's the same fucking brushing and the same fucking polishing, maybe that zaratsu bs is something extra, but other than that, same shit
look for more angles, bevels, differentiating finishing on a case
look at tudor black bay, or fuck it, even a submariner, thats some boring ass finishing, but they cost multiple thousands

>>18107245
There isn't any, the same Seiko that used to cost $300 costs $3k now.

>>18107140
They basically never use their in-house movement though. They use sellitas. They came up with their own movement to be taken seriously as watchmakers and not just watch-assemblers, it's more of a marketing move. Still one of the best "new" brands in my opinion.

>>18107260
They made the minute repeater movement and they just made a new movement for the skeletonized twelve.

>>18107246
Pity (You).

>>18107245
>can't tell the difference in finishing between a $300 watch and a $1000 watch
because there isnt
you only start getting good finishing at 5k+

i want to buy myself an everyday citizen eco drive watch that is on the thin side and not too outrageous looking. any recommendations? there are so many different variations that im afraid im going to buy one thing only to discover something i like more right after. right now im looking at pic related, either black or blue dial

>>18107284
nah

>>18107270
The Bel Canto
1 - isn't a minute repeater properly speaking, it's an hour chime. There is a difference but it doesn't matter much
2 - isn't an in-house movement, it's a stock movement and CW designed the complication module to go on top of it. Which is a very smart way of going around it : you get some unique setups and complications for a fraction of the price because the hardest parts to do in-house are not for you to worry about.

>>18107105
That Seiko is actually surprisingly good with it's proportions.

>>18107309
I think industry and marketing consensus is that modifying and building onto third party movements can be referred to as in house. "in house" doesn't really have a set in stone legal definition and depending on the brand can mean all kinds of things from manufacturing and assembling each component to altering components of movements to having another company under the same corporate umbrella make a movement for you.

>>18107312
It can and that's sort of its own problem because many use it as a way to claim they have in-house movements because they decorate and regulate some ETAs. The claim of CW is a lot more legitimate then since they realy do build their own added module.
It's all a mess and the lack of available info can be annoying if you want to figure out who does what and to what extent.

>>18107284
Ar3010

>>18107245
He's beginning to believe.

>>18107312
>>18107317
Even the Bel Canto's module isn't entire in-house. When I was interested in getting one, I did some research and found out who they bought the module from, though CW did modify it to a degree.

In-house wanking is still extremely tiresome though. It diminishes the watchmaker's art (taking a JLC movement and finishing it to HH standards means nothing?) and it gets people trying to create logical pricing structures around luxury goods that have never followed logical pricing structures. (OK, that IWC uses the same movement but the Vacheron adds 4g of gold to the case so it should cost no more than X.)

>>18107340
Luxury pricing is "logical" but the money goes into things that you can't necessarily see that you need to sort of refine your palate for in order to appreciate it, mostly because a lot of what you're paying for is the hourly wages of a craftsman putting hand work into each individual piece. The difference between a Patek and a timex is with the patek skilled workers spent hours meticulously finishing every individual screw on the watch and regulated the movement in 5 positions before casing it and then regulated it again after it was cased. Does that make a difference? For a lot of people, no. But discerning people who appreciate that are willing to pay for it.

With pretty much everything you buy there are diminishing returns on what you're paying for. A $50 bottle of wine will probably be a lot better than a $15 bottle of wine, but a $100 bottle of wine might only be a little better than the $50 bottle. You may have to be an experienced taster to understand the difference, but the time and work that went into producing that difference could be huge. Whether it's worth the price is up to you.

>>18107365
No one is denying that a Patek gets more labor-hours than a Timex and, thus, will cost more. I think you may be forgetting to add in additional "luxury pricing" simply to make the customer think he's getting a more prestigious product.

Take your basic hand-winding dress watch. Patek's version (6119R, for example) will be considerably more expensive, about 10k USD, than ALS's (201.033) even though they will be roughly on-par with one another in all respects.

Patek is Patek and can charge more. ALS is the new boy and has not yet developed the same level of prestige in the market.

my new daily

thoughts on the BB54?

>>18107390
None, Tudor is boring.

>>18107390
I like the proportions.

>>18106513
GW-5000 or GW-M5610

>>18106740
Any current Calatrava and Patrimony looks like that, then there's the JLC Master Ultra Thin SS.

>>18107392
boring yet timeless look, well built, in house movement, accurate, has history and reasonably priced.

name a watch with similar qualities.

>>18107402
>name a watch with similar qualities.
It's better in every way
>same movement
>sunburst dial
>many colors to pick from
>better finishing
>better build quality
>rare bracelet
>one of the few watch brands not owned by a conglomerate

You made the NPC choice

>>18107407
not gonna lie, the superocean is a great choice.

just a few things-
cant get past the 42mm case width and 14.4mm thickness.
$1.3k usd more than BB54
>rare
as boring as the 3 link bracelet looks, its classic and has T-fit clasp

being a NPC aint always bad

>>18107390
looks great

>>18107390
What's your wrist size?

>>18107420
>$1.3k usd more than BB54
Brand new maybe. Used they are both going for the same money, around 3k. I think the blue Breitling pops. The Tudor is just kinda boring.

>>18107245
if you go vintage, a "cheap" king seiko or lord marvel today feels identical fit and finish wise to a rolex of the same era

except one is a few grand and the other is a few hundred. gotta take into consideration of orignal MSRP too. a $300 seiko in 1970 was the same price as a rolex GMT.

>>18107444
This sounds like something bittercel would write.

>>18107447
I guess you'd be the one who would know, being a bitter incel yourself.

>>18107451
Ah, you are bittercel.
What Seiko are you wearing today?

>>18107447
No, Bittercel would simply seethe and accuse others of being Bittercel.

That anon is not wrong. The higher-end Seikos of the late 60s/early 70s have external fit and finish to old Rolexes from the same era. (Obviously, movement quality was a different matter)

However, it's not really a relevant thing to point out since >>18107245 was probably talking about modern, new watches. In that case, there is very little difference between a $300 and $1000 watch since it's all machine-finished, simple shapes.

>>18107444
Taking inflation into account, grand seikos still cost as much as rolexes in retail prices. The Seikos just don't hold value.

>>18107453
>No, Bittercel would simply seethe and accuse others of being Bittercel.
Well: >>18107451
That settles it.

>>18107452
I'm not who you think I am and I'm not even the person you said that to, I'm just reminding you that you're an annoying retard and that you shouod get a trip so people who don't want to see you(everybody) can filter you.

>>18107459
You should use a trip yourself so we can filter out your retarded opinions and seethe.
I guess you don't use one already because it wouldn't serve your purpose of shitting up this place even more.

>>18107458
>>18107447 is the first usage of the term in this thread. Looks like you were a little too anxious to "settle it."

what's the point of rolex?

>>18107482
*rawleks

>>18107482
Raw leeks.

See:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWJOSWGwaGI

>>18107482
Basically being as good as a _normal_ watch can get. They aren't the best at anything, but they're very, very good at everything.

Rolexes are generally, simple, versatile, and tough.

>>18107488
>They aren't the best at anything
You would know that feeling wouldn't you now, non-rolex owner.

>>18107493
triggered

>>18107493
>You would know that feeling wouldn't you now, non-rolex owner.
Sure I would

which is the most reddit brand, omega or rolex? Pic unrelated

>>18107507
Probably Seiko, actually.

>>18107513
Nah Reddit hates Seiko.

>>18107501
Based Langecel. You had another one too right? Could you post that?

>>18107525
That's the only Lange I own. I think you're confusing me with someone else.

What if instead of rolex I bought the $4,000 g-shock?

>>18107536
It's like that dancing picture. Either extremely Chad or extremely virgin.

>>18107501
>2 piece collection
Let me guess, you bought Lange because you couldn't afford a real high end watch.

>>18107527
So how much money did you lose on the Pepsi? You bought it at its peak like the fucking NPC pleb you are right? I remember your story.

Is it under 10 at least?

>>18107566
way to move the goalpost retard. Im sure you cunts don't even have a watch and are just diaspora from the worst /fa/ generals.

>>18107536
If you dress well, are /fit/ and have the money is a chad idgaf move. Sadly most of the time from what i've seen are wore by fat rich bearded engineers. But sure.

Only the bitter dorks in here can find a way to shit on a dude showing us his rolex and lange. If you don't post your own watch your criticism isn't to be taken seriously.

>>18107536
Why is it so expensive

>>18107583
Abandon all value ye who enter here

>>18107589
Yeah but that g-shock isn’t a luxury watch, it looks like any other g-shock and doesn’t seem to have any special functionality either. So why on earth is it 4k

>>18107566
>>18107567
>Posts 1 minute apart
Not even trying to hide it at this part, are you?

>>18107594
probably materials, and feel. is for people who are G-shock fans and want to upgrade while keeping the same look. Is not for me I can tell you that.

>>18107596
No, I wasn't. I was one person replying to your two posts separately you fucking mouthbreather. God you're unintelligent. To think that you actually just thought you would look cool pointing out the fact that those two posts came from the same person as if it wasn't intentional. FMD.

>>18107594
What is a luxury watch? The only things they have in common are they tell the time and are expensive.
>Verification not required

I like the BitterBrigade; at least when they are here, they won't feel alone.

>>18107608
Calm down, Bittercel. Why don't you post some watches instead? It doesn't even have to be a watch you own. Pics of watches you like are good enough.

>>18107626
I ain't Bittercel, just loling at your idiocy and inability to understand 4chan, you jackass.

Also, nice knowing you blew 30k on a 15k watch there. That's smart as shit. No wonder you're always here shitposting, you have no other avenue to stop you from crying yourself to sleep every night.

>>18107582
>If you don't post your own watch your criticism isn't to be taken seriously.
True, but posters who criticize watches rarely ever post their own. They are so insecure of their watches that simply cannot accept the possibility anyone would be anything but fawning.

I like my watch, so I don't care if you want to say it looks like an AliExpress shitter.

Cowards who refuse to post their own watches don't actually like their own watches. That's what they're most bitter about.

>>18107631
Post your watch. I'm sure your collection is more interesting than the guy's ALS and Rolex. Demonstrate your superior taste.
(You won't)

>>18107583
zaratsu polishing, titanium and cobarion

>>18107652
Dude, fucking kill yourself. I'm not posting shit, it's none of your business what I own and I'm not here to flaunt my big dick compensating for something like you apparently are.

And that Lange is toxic sludge I wouldn't touch with a pole.

>>18107658
There's no need to be ashamed of your Casio.

Guys, I've just been on some 2nd hand website looking for some gems in watches and I found smth called Seiko Royal Oak, I found out it's just mod and some outside company make those which look exactly the same as AP Royal Oak (bracelet etc), only the dial is a bit different as it shows Seiko, do you think it's worth to get such watch? Or will it be seen as total knock off AP? Also if you had a choice between Tissot Gentleman titanium or Tissot PRX

>>18107657
>zaratsu
Fuck me, now I'm sold.

>>18107648
Look adulter/whorecel is here

>>18107667
Whoretadello does not own a Moser. He was shopping for a 40mm Pioneer like >>18107582 has, but it was too big for him.

>>18107660
Weak bait, put some effort in, jackass.

>>18107673
No, I think we're all interested in what you own. This is a watch thread, after all. Someone who gets so angry at a simple Lange must have some very impressive pieces.

>>18107662
you can source every component from aliexpress and build your own seiko royal oak in under $150.

>>18107676
>inb4 watchbox full of Jacob & Co and Richard Mille.

>>18107662
Looks amazing unironically

>>18107648
to be fair, though, it doesn't help that any rich poster who receives any criticism of their watch immediately resorts to shrieking about poorfag jealousy and bitterness.

>>18107683
Based

>>18106435

You can say about TGV and his shitters what you want, but his shit has higher production value than Bulbasaur.

>>18107662
>Chink puts a seiko logo on a fake watch
>fat poor American men basedface and buy them in droves and cope by telling themselves they are buying a "modded watch" and not a fake that some chink stuck a seiko logo on
No fuckin clue why people are so enthusiastic to buy this garbage while telling themselves they are above buying fakes

>>18107536
what does mr g stand for? mister Gay??

>>18107694
G stands for Gangsta my man.

>>18107694
Majestic Reality G-Shock. Seriously.

>>18107501
Dangerously based. Is the Rolex steel or white gold?

>>18107671
>>18107648
My apologies to both of you

>>18107667
>whorecel
lmao

>>18107566
Ok post your high end watch

>>18107402
Omega

my beater for gardening chores

If you britbogs insist on buying Omega watches can you at least pronounce ot correctly?

>>18107760
How do you pronounce it?
Umma-guh?

>>18107765
Omégay.

>>18107765
Oh-may-ga

>>18107765
Omega.

>>18107778
Gorlomi

>>18107760
Agree 100 percent. All these o-me-ga tards are absolutely butchering the original greek

>>18107817
Ou Mega

>>18107284

Just began working on my heirloom,I'm a noob but it should be fine as it just need cleaning and just a bit of oil,better than running it dry.Wish me luck. For now the only problem was a frozen dial holding bolt,added it a bit of degreaser and it worked. Apparently the movement is very simple and easy to work on.

>>18107855
F Martin more like F Shartin am I right

>>18107870
Considering I have two San Shartin and one poodor sounds right,I'm a shitter enthusiast.

I took an Omega pocket watch from 1920 for a revision since it had issues running (it only ran if you kept it at certain angles) and they told me that the watch is in very bad conditions and that more than a revision it would be a restoration and that it will cost me around €600/700, and they told me to only do it if the watch has sentimental value. I accepted anyway but they also told me that they're not even sure if they can do it and they have taken my watch while they check if it's actually fixable.
I want to know if they asked me too much, i had no idea it was in such a bad shape, the last revision was anywhere around 10-20 years ago (but they told me that the last guy who serviced the watch did a bad job)
This is a very reputable family owned watchmaking shop, been in business since 1900 and only has good reviews mostly stating that the owners are honest. So, is the price asked reasonable? I should have asked for more opinions but I really trusted the guy at the shop

>>18107875
based horological coprophiliac

>>18107876
>revision instead of repair
What are they revising?

>>18107928
I thought they would only need to oil it up and maybe replace a spring or something. Took it for a revision or a repair or whatever but was charged this amount and want to know if it's fair

>>18107875
Based

>>18107105
It's an excellent line of watches. I've heard you can get unlucky with these movements, but I've also heard that regulating and demagnetizing them can help. I'm hoping the newer version gets some more colours in the future.

>>18107936
if it's a 120+ year old shop one would expect them to be able to clearly define what's wrong with it that requires such work

>>18107968
I'm not that guy but from the way he tells the story it sounds like they are just guessing without opening the movement. So they have no way of knowing what's up with it, they're just warning him that in all likelihood it's not going to be something cheap.

>>18107876
No expert,but the good news and if it runs it's not over for the watch,however,it can be everything,even some damaged jewel or axle/pivot that requires some precission work. Keep in mind that proper maintenance its not just slapping a new movement,it disassemble everything,clean,repair,oil.

>>18107438
Can’t tell you right now cause I’m at work

But the lug to lug is perfect for my narrow wrist

>>18107747
Only omega in that price range is a second hand speedmaster, but already have a vintage seamaster

>>18108022
I really think the 54 is a straight up better watch in every way than the 58. even if your wrist is a little bigger.

45 days until I get my longines conquest
its been busy these last two months (as I dont scale down my lifestyle and invest 1000 EUR no matter what) so money has been rather scarce bros but we'll make it alright

>>18108047
He bought a SHITTER

>>18108061
WHY for fucks sake
recommend me a watch for 2000 EUR range

>>18108066
Don't try to save money buying SHITTERS. IT'S GOTTA HURT!

>>18108069
no
I'll buy omega aqua terra once I have 100k in liquid assets
now I have 52k and I will buy a 2k watch

>>18108071
I have 54k and I bought a Casio
You better save up bro.

>>18108074
no
I will own luxury watches equal to or less than 5% of my liquid wealth

I will enjoy life a bit more - no joke, this is a resolution I made lol

>>18108073
My honest reaction to talk about liquid net worth in /wt/

>>18108071
do stocks in taxable brokerage count as liquid? what about 401k?

>>18108071
>>18108074
for me once i hit 500k liquid i will buy a JLC or something

Jesus fucking Christ
NEW THREAD WHEN?

>>18108125
All avatarfags/bittercels are asleep. No new thread for you.

>>18108047
I like it.

Your other option is maybe a Tudor black bay 36, you made a good choice

>>18106445
Beelzebub is the lord of flies. Probably esoteric occult shit.

New Bread baked, Frens...

>>18108183
>>18108183
>>18108183

GO GO GO!

>>18106859
One of my favorites. Nice.

>>18107583
It's also made from like 30+ machined pieces instead of one solid piece of metal.