/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

Some western / indie publishers of Manga:

Saturday AM ( https://www.saturday-am.com/ )
> Digital indie magazine, seems to be on the up-and-up
> Open submissions for long-form series; also distributes series currently being published elsewhere.
> Regularly publishes one-shots, making it a good potential outlet for already-finished work.

Noir Caesar ( https://www.noircaesar.com/ )
> Focuses on black (specifically African-American) content, but seems willing to publish anyone good enough.
> Seemingly series-based only.
> No "magazine" style updates; series are updated on their own schedule.
> Seems less regular than Saturday AM, but also seems larger in terms of readership.

Oni Press ( https://onipress.com/ )
> Technically indie, but at this point large enough by comic standards to be mentioned in the same breath as other publishers.

Antarctic Press ( https://antarctic-press.myshopify.com/ )
> Longtime large-indie publisher of OEL / manga-esque books.
> Seemingly taking submissions at present if http://www.antarctic-press.com/html/submissions.php is anything to go on.

Yen Press ( https://yenpress.com/ )
> Started out as a small indie publisher of original / Korean material, and has grown reasonably popular since.
> As of 2016, it is also one of the western arms of the Kadokawa Corporation, with Kadokawa owning a 51% stake.
> Editorial inquiries can apparently be sent to yenpress@yenpress.com, however, they apparently are not open to new submissions at this time.

Viz Media / Viz Originals ( https://www.viz.com/originals )
> *The* western manga publisher.
> Currently in the exploratory stages of setting up an English label.
> Submissions are open and several books have been announced. However, progress on the label seems to be moving very slowly.
> Still might be worth a shot anyway.

Shrine Comics ( https://shrinecomics.com/ )
> Small indie manga publisher
> Seemingly attempting to make the transition to physical volumes
> Allows crossposting to other sites

Other open comic publishers:

Dark Horse ( https://www.darkhorse.com )
>Dark Horse still welcomes your submissions, and all submissions will still be reviewed, just as they always have been.
>All unsolicited story/series proposals must have a full creative team on board. Writer-only proposals will not be reviewed.

Image comics ( https://imagecomics.com/ )
>Image Comics only publishes creator-owned material. They do not contract creators; they’re only interested in publishing original content for which you would retain all rights.
>Image Comics publishes creator-owned/creator-generated properties and THEY DON’T PAY PAGE RATES. Image takes a small flat fee off the books published, and it will be the responsibility of the creators to determine the division of the remaining pay between their creative team members.

Drawn and quarterly ( https://drawnandquarterly.com/ )
>Please email a low resolution PDF with at least 20 pages of comics and cover letter to submissions. Do not send dropbox links, scripts, or proposals. Please read our submissions FAQ.

Fantagraphics ( https://www.fantagraphics.com/ )
>submission page: https://www.fantagraphics.com/pages/faq

Top Shelf Productions ( https://www.topshelfcomix.com/ )
>Regarding submissions, we're easy. Just email us a download link of what you'd like us to review. NOTE: We cannot accept cover letters, plot synopses, or scripts unless they are accompanied by a minimum of 10-20 completed pages (i.e., fully inked and lettered comic book pages).

Additional publisher lists:
> https://jasonthibault.com/definitive-list-comic-publisher-submission-guidelines/
> https://writingtipsoasis.com/best-independent-comic-book-publishers/

And a new addition, platforms to host your manga:

>Manga Plus Creators by Shueisha
https://medibang.com/mpc/

>Webtoons
https://www.webtoons.com/en/

>Tapas
https://tapas.io

>ComicFury
https://comicfury.com

>GlobalComix
https://globalcomix.com

>Medibang
https://medibang.com

>Pixiv
https://www.pixiv.net/en/

>Mangadex
https://mangadex.org

>Twitter
https://twitter.com

>Tumblr
https://www.tumblr.com

>DeviantArt
https://www.deviantart.com

>Your own website

Current Contests:

Silent Manga Audition: https://www.manga-audition.com/sma19-overflowing-tears-silent-manga-audition/

Magic international manga contest: https://www.shibuya-productions.com/en/magic/magic-international-manga-contest.html,73

4-koma Contest:
https://kitakyushu-mangataisho.com/en/

/mmg/'s very own anon-led anthology: /ic/onography
https://discord.gg/QYnFBves7V
https://forms.gle/d3a2Cwwd44sJYyqv9

How (You) can help /mmg/:

> Know about a contest or a publishing opportunity? TAG THE OP and post a link.
> Have a new resource? TAG THE OP and link / mention it for inclusion.
> Have a link / DL for a mentioned resource? TAG THE OP and mention what you're supplying a link for.
> SCREENSHOT / PASTEBIN effortposts that help you for posterity.

OP image is from Youth Shonen Magazine 1978-1983. You can read it here: https://mangadex.org/title/9ca28091-ff78-4937-9e32-d390c9ca381a/youth-shonen-magazine-1978-1983

No thread questions this time, I didn’t have any ideas. Do your best everyone!

Wish my off-days were more consistent with my on-days. Can be in the flow for hours sometimes, other days it seems like I can barely go past a stick figure.

Is anyone else suddenly ordering philosophy and history book because of Boichi's LHP 600? I'm so far behind in reading and knowledge, it seems insurmountable to me to be a working author...

https://wingsofdaera.cfw.me/
https://tapas.io/series/Wings-Of-Daera

Working on the storyboard for chapter 4 already.

how do you solve plot issues you encounter? my second chapter has had me stuck for months.

>>6592060
what kind of plot issues?

>>6591954
Kill yourself my man, I mean it.

>>6592065
for me, i know what i want to have happen, but i don’t know how to make it happen due to lack of experience and not finding a straight answer no matter what i try to look up, it’s about 90s music production without being signed to a label. i tried writing some slice of life stuff to take it’s place, but it felt like boring in depth commentary i could just mention instead of showing.

>>6591954
Lol dude if that's what you took away from that video then you are very silly.

>>6592079
>>6592104
Ngmi illiterates

>>6592138
>Ngmi
I'm doing pretty well, I'm getting paid to draw comics.
The whole reason Boichi mentioned LHP 600 was as part of an anecdote about how in school that was considered the point at which one was now informed enough to write papers on the topics. He pointed out that he'd met plenty of people who had done the LHP 600 and they had nothing to say despite that. This is all in service of finding a point to make in your stories, something to say in service of creating a compelling manga, and it's just one way. There are many ways to reach the same ends, you don't even need to apply philosophy at all, as that was merely an example. I'll say it again: if you watched that video and your take away was "I need to read up on my history and philosophy!" then you sadly missed the point. You can do that anyway if you want, I guess. There's nothing wrong with reading up on those topics of course, but don't expect it to make you good at coming up with compelling ideas for a manga.

>>6592170
i know what point he was making lol. LHP 600 was an exaggeration to make a point: reflect deeply on your life. There's no need for you to get so offended over mere banter

>>6592175
I wasn't offended, I called you silly and that's about it.

>>6592180
よかった、didn't want any animosity

>>6592138
>starts reading books so he can be cool like comic book man
You don't have any room to look down on anyone

>>6592184
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rECh7Fj4J4s

>>6592192
性交する

Does anyone have any recommendations for a manga or comic that has good composition and paneling to study from? Don't care about art/story, just something that sticks out as having interesting or unique way of composing panels.

>>6592268
I've said it before but Jojo part 4 has very interesting paneling. But generally, there's a tonne of manga that excel in that area in their own way. Just read manga like you normally would, or go to manga recommendation charts or whatever (just google it) and you'll find good reference material.

>>6592268
Witch Hat Atelier has some very bold and creative paneling

>>6592268
Hunter x Hunter has some great paneling imho.
If you're interested, look up volume 26.

>>6591921
Guys, is there a standard way to insert text into a physical manga page? I mean, when i happen to find a picture of an original manga panel, i can see that the text is printed into strips of paper which are then glued onto the page.
I was wondering if this is done by the authors themselves or if they just submit some kind of document to the editors that contains information about dialogs. Also, what's the process for floating text like picrel?

>>6592941
Assistants with X-acto knives.

In English they hand-wrote everything

>>6592941
For the floating text just create a layer, give it a white outline of like 3 pixels, and you're done.

Does this panel look weird? I feel like something is off but I can’t figure it out. It’s my first time drawing without a reference.

>>6593151
Work on your figure drawing and anatomy

>>6593169
What particularly looks off?

>>6593181
There is nothing on that page that is right.

>>6593189
That's not really fair since manga isn't about beautiful drawings. The layout looks good but I would have to read the full scene to really judge

>>6593216
Art is wonky but keep at it finish the comic you'll learn a lot don't listen to that dickhead anon

>>6593216
>>6593221
Cope, it's not good and doesn't convey any kind of narrative or even scene. He needs to go back to basics.

>>6593189
that wasn't me. Your art isn't complete shit, but it's not good enough for publishers. Keep making manga, and do figure drawing, and your overall skill will improve

>>6593314
meant for>>6593181

>>6593151
The drawings are wonky, but there's not really "one thing" you can do to fix it, I'd simply move on and work on drawing skill over time

>>6593221
>>6593285
I'm not the op. Just posted my opinion on his page. The layout follows modern manga trends so I gave him his credit where it's due

I've wanted to make comics since I was little but never made very far into it. I read books but never turned the theory into practice. How do I get over it and actually make something?

>>6593443
Spend a decade learning perspective and anatomy and story-structure and playwriting, before you start drawing comics. It's the only way to ensure quality

>>6593443
set uninterrupted time aside, no phone, internet or any letting any other distractions be present until the time is up, that should guarantee at least a little progress towards comic making

>>6593151
It's looks weird, but interesting.

>>6593151
It's wonky but you're on the right track.
Analyzing the page after drawing it is the right move, however I'd recommend refraining from asking for advice right away. Keep making pages and trying to make the next page better than the last and you'll end up improving a little bit at a time. It takes hundreds of pages to measure improvement, and that's normal. If you come seeking feedback on every page, you will likely get loads of conflicting and frankly probably quite discouraging advice, such as calling the drawings bad and telling you to go study... They may be right, the drawings are bad and study would help, however that won't help you with any of the other things you need to learn about making comics, and leads you into the mindset of not being "good enough" to draw your comic. Don't stop, keep going. It's a long road, and if you make a habit of taking detours to study you'll never reach your destination.

>>6593169
>>6593189
>>6593221
>>6593357

I will work harder and be better. Thank you for all your feedback. I will one day come back with a better illustration.

>>6592941
That is usually added after the fact for display purposes. Normally there is no text there, and if there is, it's erased in editing.

>>6591976
Love her alternative outfit

Should I learn realistic shading for manga?

>>6593915
If you want to have realistic shading in your manga, then yeah.

Platinum End is a fucking tremendous series. I have no idea why it's not as highly regarded as Death Note and Bakuman (though I'm only 2 volumes in) Ohba never ceases to amaze

Opinions?

>>6594451
not bad, i really like it

>>6592170
sorry to sound stupid but what's LHP 600? also is boichi yt back?

damn boichi did actually come back!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYGN57uoR8o

Also for the love of fuck somebody plz get him a script editor this time, my man is all over the place saying the same 3 super vague things over and over :) appreciate the content for free, but he could be so much better if he structured his stuff instead of rambling aimlessly every time.

You know, I never see anyone posting their scripts here. Makes me think people don't actually write them.

>>6594770
>post script
>story idea stolen by faster worker

no thanks

>>6594478
It’s a Korean proverb, where if you read 600 books of literature, history, and Philosophy, you can become a professional writer

>>6594804
Anon, I understand you like your story, but I can assure you just because you post it doesn't mean it'll be hopped on like it's liquid gold. If you think your story is so good that merely presenting it would mean it would be stolen, you're either narcissistic or paranoid.

I want to look at people's scripts to study HOW they're written and improve my own. Not because I care what's written.

>>6594927
If you don't think they're good enough to crib, why do you think they're good enough to study?

Yeah I'm paranoid, doesn't mean I'm wrong. I've been robbed of designs and stories before, not gonna happen again.

>>6594837
Koreans are drinking drano. What a stupid idea, as bad as the fucking saitama workout.

>>6594837
I can't think of a single Korean writer much less a professional one.

>>6594948
I dont' know... I've seen plenty of great writers say you need to read a ton.

>>6594770
>>6594927
>If you think your story is so good that merely presenting it would mean it would be stolen, you're either narcissistic or paranoid.
Even if you're not trying to fish for ideas, this is fallacious and rude. No one's going to share their script with you, go hire a writer.

>>6594945
Because I don't wanna spend hours drawing ideas that aren't mine.

>>6595010
You're right, I should clarify; the only way something would be heavily affected by it being copied would be if it was revolutionary. An absolute groundbreaking product. Which you should never,ever assume a product that doesn't yet exist will be.

A good way to be sure to fail is to be sure you'll succeed, and a good way to be sure you'll succeed is never to share what you're doing with others. Isn't that what this thread is for?

>>6594927
Dude just check that 2000 AD script compilation or something nobody would want to share their scripts because most people here work by themselves so it's not meant to be seen by someone else and probably all over the place.
It's not a good idea putting too much work into a polished script if only you are gonna see it anyway since it's only a super early preliminary step and you don't want to get too attached to the script version if it turns out it doesn't work that well on the storyboard. If you watch Manben you'll see most manga artists treat the scripting and storyboarding phase as the same step and write down the story beats at most.

>>6594770
Even if I wrote scripts (I don't), why would I post them on an anonymous imageboard focused on artwork critique? No offense, but I don't trust anons here to give meaningful feedback on a script, plus if I have a script for something I'd rather draw it out first before showing it to people.
In other words, I'd much rather post storyboards -- and I agree I wish people posted more. C'mon guys, this is manga, their whole thing is pumping out tons of storyboards (names) and inking inking the best. If you don't have loads of storyboards hanging around then you're doin' it wrong.

Is redrawing manga chapters a good way for a /beg/ to learn about paneling and pacing?
>>6594451
Impressive

Opinions?

>>6595989
It's a bunch of disconnected doodles. Why are you posting this?

>>6595993
I want to finish the drawing but I'm poor and this is the only thing I can do

>>6595999
what does being poor have to do with it

>>6593151
>>6593712
I have returned.
Here’s an illustration I did of Pessoa and one of his poems.

>>6595659
tracing can help you learn, yes, even urasawa traced ashita no joe in high school

Opinions?

>>6597402
Paneling looks boring
Having the same size panels during an action packed sequence doesn't look right, try to play around with different sizes to convey the importance of each piece

>>6596714
Based Pessoa enjoyer. One of the few mandatory writers I enjoyed in school.

So, are there any actually skilled artist on this general or not? Most go for a pretty amateur look to their work but I'm making an epic fantasy so at least good looking art with a lot of technical skills behind is a must. Any tips if I'm still sadly at a beginner skill level and still have legit years before I'll even start what I truly want to do? How do you even improve "at light's speed" illustration-wise while also engaging in minor things like comics?

How the hell do I combine kakeami and motion lines into something so that it doesn't look like a spaghetti of lines?

>>6597736
>Are there skilled artists here
Yes, very. Most of them don't post that often since they don't have need for anonymous critique, while more inexperienced artists do. Also, a lot of them just put their heads down and get to work, or even have contractual obligations they need to fill rather than post here.

>Any tips if I'm still beginner skill who's years away from doing what I want?
Find something you want to do now. Your skill will still limit you, and no matter the style or content you choose, you'll still feel your lack of skill, but a fucking fantastic way to kill your drive to improve is to spend years going "and eventually, I'll actually start doing things I WANT to do"

>How do you even improve at light's speed
Draw every day. Draw lots of things each day.

>Engaging in minor things like comics
Comics aren't minor things, and are one of the most effort intensive forms of art.

>>6597402
Looks fine I guess. I'm not really sure what you're hoping for posting half-inked pages and simply "opinions?"
What are you asking for opinions on? Your line work? Your designs? The layout? Help us out. It's a bit hard to critique a half-inked page in the wrong rotation without the context or the dialogue. Plus asking for feedback every time you draw something isn't going to do much. It takes a lot of drawings to improve, the differences between this drawing and your last aren't going to be in their execution, but in their concept. At least not in any consistent way.
Anyway I don't really agree with >>6597718, since 1. the panels aren't actually the same size and 2. it appears you're going for a character-parallel kinda thing. Ordinarily I'd suggest increasing the vertical distance between panels, but in this particular instance it works just fine with the horizontal and vertical spacing being equal.

>>6597748
What I've found is that it often comes down to values. I'd recommend finding the manga page that gave you the idea that it can look good and looking very closely at it. I did that for some concentration lines recently. Wanted an effect like I saw in a page of HxH, couldn't seem to get it to look right on my own so I pulled up the page and realized I needed to space my lines more tightly for the values to work. These effects are honestly a lot of monkey-see-monkey-do, and it can be hard to see it how a reader is going to see it when you're the one drawing the lines.

>>6597736
Somebody asks this question same question every week. Does it not simply make sense to you that the people who are going to be posting their work seeking help are the ones who know their work looks amateurish and want help? What would an "actually skilled" artist (whatever your standards for that are, you're not going to find anybody on the level of the average Jump manga here) have to gain from posting their work here other than dickriding or derision?

>>6596714
I like this, biggest problem is his feet in the middle panels. Doesn't read well, thought eye level was at the horizon initially.

>>6596714
much better composition and panelling. Now you just need lots of mileage. Like we said earlier, doing a bit of figure drawing every day, before your comic work, will multiply your improvement in an exponential way

>>6594948
The Saitama workout? What do you mean by that? Draw the same thing over and over?

>>6598575
I assume he means something like doing some arbitrary shit to hit a quota rather than specific things that actually build towards a goal. The Saitama workout is as much of a DYEL outlook as slogging through an arbitrary number of books is a nowrite outlook.
That's not to say writers don't read at all, but the world is full of people who have consumed a lot of media and can't sit down to carry an idea past the conception phase when that's the most important muscle to develop.
Reading "a lot" as an inherent good is a misconception in general. In the past people reread the same book many times, it allows you to pick up on and analyse the information much more deeply and find out all sorts of subtleties in fiction. You'd get a lot more out of spending a lot of time on a single book than doing a shallow read of a whole bunch, specially if you're doing it out of obligation.
But it's a wacky asian proverb those things are all so common sense I doubt it was meant literally.

Do publishers other than Shueisha have contests for overseas creators? I don’t want to draw Shōnen but other genres. Checked through Kadokawa and Kodansha but haven’t seen anything so far.

>>6598622
Shueisha doesn't exclusively publish shounen manga, and "shounen" isn't a genre but a target audience. If you look at their wiki page you'll find a list of all the magazines they run, active and defunct, and you'll see that there's quite a variety of audiences being targeted.

another day of not starting on my comic
oh well maybe tomorrow or after I'm done playing video games

There's some youtube videos I want to watch, a new season of anime started airing, and I just found out about a really fun looking video game I'd love to play, but all of that can wait. I'm going to do some Bridgman copies, draw a few faces, then finish as many roughs as I can before dinner.

>>6598884
why are you watching anime instead of reading manga

>>6598884
Based Bridgman enjoyer

>>6598585
I like what Mortimer Adler said about reading a book deeply, and how bring “well read” meant reading only a few books very thoroughly, instead of reading numerous books shallowly

>>6598983
Because I'm secretly taking breaks to read manga and excusing it as "studying"
>>6598994
All the Bridgman anons in /msg/ got me hooked, I'm not very good yet but they inspire me to do better

>>6596714
instead of trying to do manga you should be studying Barry Windsor Smith and Eddie Campbell

Does anyone have links to collections of assets like tones, word bubbles, speed lines and zoom lines?

>>6599000
Yeah, How to Read a Book is great, to the point I wish it were required reading in schools.
Then again I didn't put much of its advice to use when I first read it as a dumbass teenager, but it does make a difference. I wish I'd started keeping organised notes on what I learn much sooner.

>cannot come up with a hairstyle for MC that doesn't look either generic real guy, or generic anime

>>6599450
I just give all my characters a hime cut

>>6599450
The hair just needs to match the character. So long as the character design is good, it's far better to have a bland hairstyle that's coherent than a unique one that's not.

>>6598802
Yes I’m aware. But for their competition it is specifically stated that series serialisation is for Shōnen Jump. The type of series I read and want to make are more like what Kodansha or Ichijinsha publishes. I have no interests in drawing Shōnen stuff.

How do I improve character consistency with minimal effort?
I can draw relatively well for /beg/ but it takes me a lot of stamina, so if I try to draw a character consistently for a manga page it takes me fucking forever because I'm an autistic perfectionists. And that only guarantees that they will look okay, not that they will be consistent, and I'll be exhausted by the end of the page, which will take me all day
If I try to put less effort into them, try to be satisfied with them being less detailed and shit, then I get subconsciously lazy or some shit and they not only are still inconsistent, they degenerate into prebeg tier.
>Make character sheets.
I can't make them consistent enough in the sheet itself.

>>6599776
The fact that you’re getting such a brain workout means that you’re improving. Unfortunately there is no way of guaranteeing character consistency. You just have to be really good at proportions

>>6599776
>improve consistency
>minimal effort
Learn 3d, I guess? Otherwise it's simply a matter of practice and effort.
You already know you're a /beg/, why would you think there's an easy shortcut?

>>6599776
Use real actors from movies as references for the characters you're designing, so it's easier to find references of the same face from different angles.

When you do model sheets, measure everything and take notes about the most important visual characteristics of the character. You should have a "checklist" of the things that define that character.

As always, see how other artists do it. Urasawa is a great example in my opinion.

Hey guys I have followed the recommendations of #6598116 and I have made this simple drawing to know if I have done it correctly: Is the design very Japanese? Is the design well planned rather than being a generic anime design? Is there a proportion error? let me know pls

>>6600522
First of all, either take a screenshot of the picture when rotated or edit it into the correct orientation using a computer program. When you edit it in your phone the thing that makes it display as flipped is in the exif data, and 4chan removes exif data completely from posts to avoid security issues.
It doesn't look "Japanese" because there isn't some universal qualifier for that and aiming for such a pointless and vague thing will only distract you. Just focus on drawing well.
If the character is meant to be cute, which is what I assume from the outfit, then the face is too narrow and the arms are really manly. They're a bit too long, too. The outfit looks like something from an idol series, which might be good or bad depending on your intention. It at least has a distinctive look which is good for identifying the character.
I assume from earlier posts you're drawing an action series and you could get a lot of mileage out of those coattails, kinda like how half the reasons superheroes have capes is so the artist can use them as a prop to sell motion or create visual interest in otherwise uninteresting panels or poses. It's smart.

>>6599878
>why would you think there's an easy shortcut
I didn't thought there was an easy shortcut, I just thought I was entirely on the wrong track, so I was wasting effort.
>>6599950
>Use real actors from movies as references for the characters you're designing, so it's easier to find references of the same face from different angles.
Thx

experiencemachine.webcomic.ws
started my magnum opus or whatever could i get some thoughts so far?

>>6601226
This plenty of things wrong, but the quickest and easiest to fix would be the typesetting. You're doing it all wrong. Go look at how manga is typically typeset (look at official releases rather than fanscans). Just copy what they do.
https://mangafonts.carrd.co/
Dunno why this isn't in the OP but it should be.

And what's with this page? You just gave up the as soon as a human character showed up? Not exactly inspiring confidence here brudda.

>>6601247
>Dunno why this isn't in the OP but it should be.
Should probably >>6591921 so he sees it, actually.

>>6601247
it says wip in the title of that page

>>6601252
Okay, well maybe don't do that. Just post it when it's done.

>>6601226
The basis of storytelling is conflict. Each panel should probably be furthering some sort of interaction, but we just got 5 pages of endless monologue. There's no reason for the audience to click past the second page, desu

>>6601226
is english your second language?

"You're tuned into a brand new season of 'Reality Gods of the Stretch!'"

"ohoho, you all sound just as excited as i am to watch these poor saps fail miserably. (?) and win, also! (?)"

also what? the next page is "Yes! but to what end?"

-> oh ho! all of you sound just as excited as I am to watch these poor saps fail miserably!

"ahem" and win of course.

next page:

And what illustrious prize are our five fortunate foraying for?

Thats right!

The Eternal prize, the Immortal dream. a shot at stardom!

Becoming a God!

I want to make a short NSFW manga
I have the general idea down, but it feels overwhelming deciding how to ppace the panels and the different angles to draw whats happening.

What resolution do I draw in?
How do I number the pages?

>>6601349
CSP has a "shueisha" option, which I just choose. You don't need to number the pages, CSP does that for you

>>6601355
thanks!

Base for commission comic :) feels nice to draw for an artist I've been a fan of for long before starting to draw myself

>>6601369
id love to see THIS kind of progress here. i'm iver complicating things for an nsfw comic i want to make. need inspiration.

>>6601369
how did you start getting commissioned? through twitter or something?

>>6601396
I started to draw and opened Requests in Pixiv. 3 months in a CGI poser who I've been following for over 10 years placed an order, then I made a DA account and DA femfight community took notice of me and started to comm. I think it helps if people see what's your brand, niche and they see you are available. Each time I toggle my Requests/Comms on and off there's new surge of people asking if I'm available or when I will be opening comms. Most my comms come through DA, Pixiv second and Twitter third + previous clients returning

>>6601465
Do you take payment on Pixiv and it hides your personal info?
I want to draw lewd shit for money, particularly gay shit, but just want my pen-name to show.
Thank you btw for answering.
Also, DA is still viable for artists? Good to know

>>6601471
DA is good for "sfw" fetish art, for example clothed lewd stuff. You cant show penis or intercourse. For Pixiv, if you are not in Japan/have Japanese bank account, you can't take R18 comms in-site but you can still post lewd and link outside Pixiv for uncensored version. Your personal information is not shared to client and vice versa. If you want monetize your art via FanBox, DA subscriptions or whatever other monthly service, don't market yourself or your art being R18/NSFW, just state that monthly supporters see more. Your target audience will know what they paying for.

>>6601477
Thank you based anon
What if I want to market myself as nsfw on twitter and patreon? Just leave the hardcore stuff out on DA and Pixiv?

>>6601484
You can post censored hard core in Pixiv, just add censor bars or blur on dick and vagina. Just don't associate R18 material with paying and commissioning you in-site, like for example don't openly state: "If you pay me, you get access to R18 material". You can post NSFW and hard core all you want, but don't let there be clear advertising how paying you offers R18 material, instead keep it vague: "Pay me and you see more art" or "Pay me and I draw you a picture". It doesn't need to specify that it will be R18. Most active users, commissioners and monetary supporters on biggest sites know what you offering without you explicit spelling it out.

any other artists with styles like this?
https://twitter.com/jdotkdot5/status/1635024750752980992
read a dj the other day with a similar style (i think it was done by danimaru?) and i wanna start emulating it because the eyeliner esque eyelashes activate my neurons

>>6601484
seeing that the guy dodged the question, let me answer:
Yes you can advertise as nsfw on twitter and patreon, but you can't post nsfw art on patreon, best course of action is send a link monthly to a third party upload site.

>>6601369
I've seen your work posted in other threads, how did you learn to draw wrestling so well?

I take at least a third of what I said about Yu Yu Hakusho a few threads ago back. For whatever reason, the art gets really good more consistently around the Chapter Black arc. It's sketchy in places and very clearly "Togashi is slowly dying from being bent over a drawing board", but rarely does that ever harm the storytelling, and sometimes, it actively helps it. It's really admirable imperfection, especially for the expectations and tools of the time.

>>6591921
Anyone got "How to Draw Manga"?
https://www.amazon.com/How-Draw-Manga-Basics-Beyond/dp/492120540X/ref=sr_1_5?keywords=manga+drawing&sr=8-5

>>6602731
I didn't, I just draw it. It's my main subject. I guess being a fan/consumer of something for years before starting to draw oneself helps to understand basic concepts and how other artists of the genre execute them. Pic rel for the style I'm going for

I feel like I'm reading manga wrong. I just blow through chapter after chapter, and the pacing always feels really off. Am I just reading too quickly or something?

I have a dilemma. I love the way that tone scraping and similar, digital brush techniques look, but moiré is a bitch. Flat colors don't take to that kind of technique at all the same way, without a mostly binary texture it just doesn't work. What the fuck do I do? Most manga I've read online looked just fine, so clearly it's possible to work with this, somehow.

>>6603458
Slight blur will usually fix that

Retard question that's been asked a hundred times probably but where do you guys publish your shit?

Webtoon seems kill ever since people found out the creators were making like 6 dollars an hour.

Mangaplus Creators is based on random awards and has no readership

Do you guys just pitch your stuff to big names and hope to get picked up?

>>6603507
mmmmm I was planning to post to webtoons... is this not a good idea anymore???

>>6603513
I'm sure you could no problem but recently some creators came out against it and a lot of the fans seemed to have supported the creators. The biggest thing I noticed was webtoon subreddits turning into ghost towns but I don't have data to reflect how popular webtoon is currently.

>>6603507
Seems my question has been answered by the almighty twitter gods

Apparently Saturday AM has a contest coming up this summer to pitch your one shot idea.

No dates yet but look up Summer of Manga Saturday AM

https://twitter.com/Saturday_Editor/status/1645183080175398912?t=V0ap0qFv1VxYM4fJnAP79w&s=19

>>6603385
Stop and admire every panel, think about the time it took to draw and the details you are not implementing in your own work

>>6603385
Comics have the benefit of being able to read entirely at your own pace. I personally think that's a strength of the medium. However if you feel the pace you're reading at is affecting your enjoyment, maybe change your speed.
>>6603458
Flatten your layers and blur the flattened layer before exporting. I do this for every page and it works like a charm for digital release. The default 6px gaussian blur in csp is plenty if you're working at 600dpi. You can even do it non-destructively by copying the flattened layer, undoing the flattening and pasting the layer back in.

>>6603507
If you're purely concerned with readership then mangadex is probably the best place right now afaik.
Otherwise I'd really say that MPC is the best for manga-style. There simply isn't any other place that is both officially backed with potential career opportunities AND open submission. Before MPC there WAS no good place. Webtoons is better if you're making a webtoon.

>>6603591
Wasn't your problem with MPC that there aren't enough readers? SatAM seems like a major downgrade in that department.

>>6603799
The only reason I'd go with SAM instead of MPC is pay. That's it. But otherwise you are absolutely right when speaking with me. From a pure objective audience point of view, webtoon is the best for outreach if their numbers are to be believed (82m active readers in 2022).

MPC is basically a hail mary but is probably the best chance to get picked up for a living paycheck.

SAM is best for some kind of money but their standards are much lower which could lead to some valuable experience when working with a publisher and editor

>>6603892
Fair enough, a paycheck is a paycheck. I know very little about SatAM, and what I see I'm not sure I like, but worth a shot I reckon.

>>6603943
The biggest downside imo is that it's effectively trying to be two things. It wants to be a Japanese style release with many authors but also play to western audiences and the politics that come with it(hence the diverse term being used very frequently).

I feel like what they want to do could succeed but they should push more towards legitimate readers, not other artists reading because they feel like they have to support the industry.

Let the experimental shit run wild. Have fun with concepts rather than knock off Bleach and Naruto.

>>6603992
I'm convinced the manga industry can survive because of the way Japan is laid out, architecturally. People still walk the city, most don't drive, so they can go to News stands and Konbinis and pick up giant magazines, which they are willing to pay for. All the publishers are in giant cities, and all the mangakas migrate to those cities, and they can find assistants because all aspiring mangakas also move to those cities.

Booting everything to webcomics and the internet isn't sustainable. People expect everything for free on the internet, but no artists can make a living that way. We can't distribute paper magazines because North America and Europe are all car-dependent and people only drive to one place and back, they never wander to stores and news stands. People are spread out by hundreds of miles and it's hard to set up studios with assistants.

It's a fucking nightmare, as if the elites set up the modern world to be so fucking isolated and soulless, replacing all the cities with suburbs and spreading out the country by roads and highways.

>>6603994
Sustainability is definitely an issue. Especially with the way content is structured nowadays. People fucking BINGE shit. No breaks, straight up 9 hours straight of the new season then onto the next thing.

I'm convinced comics might need to go the way of zoomerism to survive everyone's ADHD. Rather than 19 pages laid out for the reader to survive, break the panels up into scenes with voice acting and chapters that last no more than 2 minutes.

It's effectively a pre production version of animation but it might hit the right mix of immediate gratification while allowing artists to be creative.

There's a guy on youtube who does manga and anime reviews called Scamboli. He's got some interesting editing where he lays out manga pages how I described above with voice acting. It would be really good for a tik tok style adhd fueled content dump.

Reminder that setting up a sustainable work/study schedule should be near the top of your priority list if you're aiming to actually enter the industry - it's grueling for even the most disciplined artists.

>>6603992
Indeed. It's clear they have an agenda beyond "make good comics", and I doubt the things I want to make are the things they want to publish anyway.

>>6604037
yeah but it hard to not fell you done enough for today
specialy when you dont make a living

Saw Shinichi Sakamoto‘s first manga from the Manben episode and got really inspired. Damn the quality of his first work and it was traditional back then.

hex hentai wipperino

I want to start working on a comic but my attention span is nonexistent and can't force myself to even begin. I'd ask for advice but I think I'm hopeless, so I just go around to complain about everything wrong with my life.

>>6604661
Doing the 2 page comics, recommended in the Shonen Jump guide, really helped me. I moved on to 3 page comics, after a while. If even that's too much, just start by copying manga, drawing characters with pencil and paper

>>6601369
The deed is done, the contract fulfilled.

>>6605689
SEX
SEEEEEEEEEEEEEX
SEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEXO SEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEX

>>6591921
Any tutorials on how to write a script? I mean structure-wise.
Shit like pic related would give me a migraine if I attempted to script like that.
Also, do you guys write the dialog + scene description and fit them into panels later or do you write for each panel like in pic related from the very beginning?

I don't know why but writing my scripts seems so tedious for me.
I just want to finish it as fast as possible without it looking like an unorganized mess.

>>6606772
Don't script, just outline your story, then storyboard it. The storyboard is your script.

>>6606772
Write dialogue for your storyboards instead of drawing storyboards around a script.
Shit like that is for people stuck with working with a writer. Back in the day people didn't even follow them that closely, it's that much of a hindrance.
Write an outline IF it helps organise a scene in your head and get a better idea of how things should go down but don't get chained to it. What Vilppu means by "no rules, only tools" is conventions and formulae only have value if they're helping you handle an otherwise complex process, what creates even more needless complexity and confusion you discard.

>>6606774
>>6606786
Then how would you write for multiple chapters in advance?
I'm the kind of autist who needs to write the entire story (or at least the first dozen chapters) with all of its scene descriptions and dialogs before I start my storyboards.

So I should just loosely outline what happens in each chapter and then focus on dialog after I'm done with storyboarding?

>>6606807
By storyboarding multiple chapters in advance. The guy is right, storyboards should be your script.

>>6606807
Just outline multiple chapters in advance. If you have the broad framework, suddenly storyboarding is like being an improv actor. The framework gives you direction and limitations, but other than that you have complete f reedom

>>6592277
wanna say i checked this out and youre right it is paneled extremely creatively, i dont really get how they come up with it but ill definitely study
>>6592923
yeah togashis the greatest, problem is i get too sucked in to hxh and forget to study

>>6594770
I do write mine so I can always go back and reedit if there's a piece of dialogue I'm unsatisfied with or if I think the flow doesn't match up. It's useful to have and helps with organizing my paneling, but I also do not have much experience with comic making. And I don't post my comics anywhere because I am a little avoidant but I would as an example if I wasn't.

>>6599776
Same anon
Are these good character reference pages?
Of course I plan to make more for each one but still in similar style.
Should they be more formal? I feel comfortable with them, but I don't know if they'll be adequate.

>>6599776
Same anon
Are these good character reference pages?
Of course I plan to make more for each one but still in similar style.
Should they be more formal? I feel comfortable with them, but I don't know if they'll be adequate.
Fuck, forgot the pic

>>6608686
mid guy looks sus

>>6608686
Anon, they're for you. Do YOU think these will help you keep the characters drawn a consistent way? If yes then they're fine, if not then make something that will, or just ditch the idea and don't stress too much about keeping them consistent. Plenty of pro mangaka don't. I mean shit, HxH often doesn't.

If I post on MPC, do I retain ownership / copyright of my comic?

>>6609599
It's the same rules as medibang artstreet, so yes.

>>6609957
what's the difference between medibang artstreet and MPC? What's better to post on? Should I post on both?

>>6609965
Artstreet was (and is) pretty dead and was mostly just a place to upload work for contest submissions. MPC is the new and improved sequel, with a focus more on just being a place to upload stuff for people to find and read, with an effort to front-page popular or curated works, and with a rolling monthly reward for standout works as incentive.
Put it this way: before MPC, the only other reasonable option to put your comic somewhere that a decent amount of people might actually see it was mangadex, a manga piracy site that just happened to allow user submitted content. Outside if that, there WAS nothing -- unless you try to post your traditional-style comic on a webtoon site.

>>6609973
I hope MPC doesn't get abandoned... but I expect most good things to go to shit eventually

>>6609998
Me too brother. Worth noting btw that it was launched with the express intent of scouting foreign talent. I mention this every time it comes up because it's fucking huge. It means you're not locked into taking a chance on fucking moving to japan if you want to get picked up by a publisher. You could already kinda do this through stuff like SMA, but MPC means you're not locked into doing one-shots until you win a few contests. It means if there's a series you want to make, you can just focus on making that and making it well.

>>6610018
Have you seen people get picked up through the site so far? Interested in seeing what kind of stuff they're looking for...

>>6610055
Nothing crazy yet, just some stuff going up on mangaplus proper right now (pic isn't the only example). Beyond that, it's hard to say, since the platform is still young (it launched in... august? october? of 2022, so it's barely half-a-year old) and even if they're contacting creators none of that is going to be public until something actually comes of it. I (or rather, my boss) was contacted and we (my boss and I) even had a google meet with a couple of representatives but it was pretty much just for feedback on the platform itself. Time will tell, and I suspect it really depends on the caliber of comic that gets uploaded there. It's not a case of "we'll just pick the best of what gets uploaded", because if even the best still isn't good enough then that's no good. They're presumably hoping to find creators who they can just straight up publish in a magazine and actually fit rather than people who are just "getting there".
However, the standards are pretty high and such people are going to be a diamond in the rough, since the lack of any real infrastructure for reaching that level outside of east asia means that there's no way to get there without dedicating decades of your life to it for free... a very difficult ask for an industry without the fame, glory and wealth guaranteed for those who do succeed, like in east asia.

>>6610072
wow, didn't know it started that recently. Honestly really looking forward to see where Shueisha takes it

>>6610072
>blatant Made in Abyss knockoff

They really are shameless

>>6610079
>blatant Made in Abyss knockoff
I will now read this amateur manga

>>6591921
Do we have any guides online on how to handle a gpen correctly? I'm alright with digital but I just tried traditional with the stuff I brought from Japan and its elementary school shit. Are there any tutorials or do I just have to practice until it's up to par with my digital work?

>>6610688
practice

Given how new MPC is with no real restrictions on colour. Would it be possible to create a manga partially in color similar to how WSJ does their color pages?

Eg:
>title color
>10 or so pages/48 color

Or would that be too many color paves? I know how people are about equating color to western made so I'm trying to walk a fine line. I really enjoy working in color but I fucking hate webtoons and how it's near impossible to get anything that isn't about sparkly boys off the ground.

>>6610749
Color is tough to sell because it doesn't print accurately unless you know exactly what you're doing, especially on the newsprint paper that manga uses. One of the reasons that old comic books that used the same paper had a very limited selection of colors was to help control print quality. Modern day digital coloring has the added problem of monitor settings distorting what you're seeing versus what the colors will do in physical ink.

>>6610755
That makes a ton of sense. I didn't even consider the idea that MPC exists to sell physical volumes rather than the digital format being the primary source. I suppose that would also restrict me to cmyk which would be problematic.

>>6610758
Yeah I haven't seen any data that says digital is catching up to physical manga sales in Japan, so I'm going to assume they are looking for something to print

>>6610688
fuck gpens. use a sable brush and ascend

new batch of Oi pages
https://tapas.io/episode/2821799

>>6610755
it's mainly because printing black and white costs less than half of what it costs to print in color

>>6610995
Not to mention how many revisions have to be done due to color. One of the artists from Your Name had a livestream said he did like 12 colour corrections over a week when commissioned to do a tourist book of japan.

Printers hate RGB

>>6611002
What's stopping people from inventing RGB printers? We've landed men on the moon, and we've created nuclear bombs, but we can't print vibrant colors?

>>6611012
RGB inks produce darker colors when printed leading to values being all out of whack. CMY produces lighter colors and closer to the intention and has a more flexible range than RGB but cannot produce deep darks.

In order to achieve proper color K or black is introduced to get those deep darks. But because most people work in RGB for nearly infinite reasons, color corrections have to be done after several test prints.

Where do H manga artists publish their work besides Twitter and pixiv?

>>6611164
Comicfury allows it.

What's the single most depressing manga panel you've ever seen?

>>6611315
maybe this one

>>6611315
Kurosawa talking to the traffic dummy was a bit of a gag but this hit hard for some reason. Rock Fucking Bottom.

>>6611164
Magazines, comiket (and other -kets), smaller anthologies.

>>6611315
Hard to really get it across without the context of the chapter but any of the pages from this sequence of chapter 115 of Kokou no Hito. Protag, hitting his mid 20s, realizes he wasted the best years of his life on autistic shit and pictures all the things he could have had had he just been normal.

>>6611339
This is a great one too.

>Booting everything to webcomics and the internet isn't sustainable. People expect everything for free on the internet, but no artists can make a living that way.

There're guys putting their webcomics online for free but making a killing on patreon.

>>6612018
Asian publishing companies do nothing to shut down pirate sites that upload their manga because they understand that the free advertising these pirate sites provide is a good thing, and the real money is in the merchandise.

>>6612018
wtf do they offer in patreon? People won't just give money to them for free...

>>6612397
NSFW content and early access

>>6612404
>now mangakas are forced to whore out their characters to make a living

>>6612397
You'd be surprised- plenty of people are perfectly willing to give their favorite authors money. Otherwise it's early updates, behind the scenes notes, etc.

>>6612191
They do shut down pirate sites, just not the western fanscan-types. They straight up arrest prolific raw providers when they get the chance. It's happened before.
https://www.kotaku.com.au/2021/06/manga-pirate-sentenced-to-three-years-in-prison-and-fined-over-us600000-769560/
https://kotaku.com/japans-manga-piracy-crackdown-continues-1848064076
Yeah yeah, >kotaku
https://english.kyodonews.net/news/2021/06/3a23c8825d61-ex-illegal-manga-site-operator-sentenced-to-3-yrs-in-jail.html

I was wondering how I can draw and write for a Xenogears Doujin I am working on.

It is a retelling of events of the game starting around when Elly and Fei get caught by Solarian Authorities and where it differs is Elly gets sentenced for Treason to partake in the M Plan and give birth to Deus.

>>6612943
I already felt like mmg was teetering on it's deathbed, but you posting this just nailed it's coffin shut. gooodbye

>>6612943
what the literal fuck is wrong with all of you

>>6612404
whose patreon is this? How much do they make?

is anyone in this thread working on/making/or have created a webtoon? Im just curious to what you guys think of the panel format on it.

finishing my doujinshi
I keep accidentally self inserting

>>6613676
Looking good

did u start ur comic yet anon

>>6613783
Yeah got my first chapter written, got my characters, just need to design the location and I'll start page 1 today

>>6613783
Inking is a bitch anon

6 hours per page and I’m dissatisfied with the results that I want to reink it

>>6613224
I don't know how much they make because they hide their earnings, but it's for the creator of Age Matters on webtoons.
A lot of popular Webtoon people just make generic romance comics, then hide the smut behind a Patreon paywall

>>6613783
Entered the Call to Action contest last year. Got literally no attention so I'm waiting on another contest to submit to.

>>6613964
post your entry

>>6614065
Ngl it's fucking terrible so I'm embarrassed to post it. The only thing half way good about it was the background art.

Added animation page to my stuff~

>>6613676
This looks great~!!!

>>6614233
cool

I only learned to draw because I wanted to make comics and manga. I can sketch some volume in a mostly human figure shape and throw some value on it and I am so fucking bored I wanna do comics now.

What's the bare minimum of the books in the op for me to start with? Am I right to assume that the key next step is figuring out what composition and angles are interesting to view from and how to break a scene into panels in a way that conveys the beats of a scene without being confusing?

I've done some basic creative writing so I already have an idea of scene construction from a written point of view and I'm assuming I just need to be able to translate a novel scene into images. I usually write in third person so hopefully that should be easier to translate to a visual format?

>>6613964
I sure hope you're making stuff in the meantime. The SMA is rolling seasonally, so even if you don't actually care about winning it's a good idea to make stuff for that just to sharpen your skills.

>>6614233
Nice man. I've kind of thought about doing a manga-with-animation sort of like this, I got as far as opening CSP's animation timeline and noping out, lol.

>>6614394
>I am so fucking bored I wanna do comics now.
So do it.
>What's the bare minimum of the books in the op for me to start with?
Nothing.
>Am I right to assume that the key next step is figuring out what composition and angles are interesting to view from and how to break a scene into panels in a way that conveys the beats of a scene without being confusing?
The next step is to make some fucking comics. You're thinking this is something you should be "preparing" for, when that's not how it is in reality. Composition and angles are things you will naturally figure out BY making comics, not reading books. It all comes down to how you personally find works best for depicting what you're trying to depict. There is no book that can teach you that.
>I've done some basic creative writing so I already have an idea of scene construction from a written point of view and I'm assuming I just need to be able to translate a novel scene into images. I usually write in third person so hopefully that should be easier to translate to a visual format?
Comics are a different beast, but don't let me tell you because maybe you'll find that to be false. Jump into making a comic, hit your head into the brick wall and feel out a way around or over it. That's ultimately the only way, it's something everybody who has ever made comics has had to do. It's less like studying to be a doctor and more like practicing to become an athlete.

>>6614233
This looks sweet, anon. What language is this? Looks like tagalog or malay or something.

>>6613964
>>6614065
Found some of the background art for it after digging through my computer. Too embarrassed to show the character work.

On the upside it made me REALLY enjoy doing background art.

completed the outline for the little comic I'm making
now for character design

>>6614705
malay~
>>6614675
I feel losing once i saw Nebu_Kuro did to One Punch Man, in my mind "he's a human too but with a lot of experience, why can't i do it too" lol. My motivation at least learning how to animate

>>6614946
Thought you were Indon lol.

Animasi mantap.

>>6614988
Indon kok~

>>6614946
Murata's been drawing for like 40 years dude. And I don't mean "oh i'm a kid dodoling stick figures lol i'm only just taking it seriously now that i'm an adult" drawing, I mean he was entering character design contests as early as 12 years old, so he'd clearly been drawing "seriously" (by which I mean the average drawing being fairly ambitious, not just stick figures or whatever) long before that. He's been a pro drawing manga full-time for almost 30 years now. None of us, guaranteed you included, have more than a fraction of his mileage. It's silly to compare yourself to an industry vet like that. Maybe you can get to where he is too, but you have to expect a similar span of time. And guess what? The way to get there... is to make stuff and get experience.

>>6615000
He start being serious from 25 doe, i'm an autistic optimist joe

>>6615005
Don't let optimism turn into delusion. The reason Murata can draw like that in OPM is because he had 20 years of experience just in drawing manga at that point, let alone anything before then. Unless you have comparable experience, there's no reason to feel inferior. The world would be backwards if you could do what he does without the work to get there.

>>6614993
>kok
The texts in the speech bubbles reads not... very malay-ish? Maybe because I'm used to bahasa baku kekek.

>>6615021
Wow there fellas, it just a drawing bro...
>>6615026
I decide to use casual grammar next time lulz

>>6614065
nta but here's my entry. It didn't gain any traction.
https://www.webtoons.com/en/challenge/oi-the-battle-of-banshee-vale/the-battle-of-banshee-vale/viewer?title_no=795609&episode_no=1
it gave me an excuse to draw a prolonged fight scene and try pages in full color. I also created a lot of pages in a short amount of time, so that was good experience gained atleast. If I entered it again, I'd try entering an original story with original characters and less backstory, not something connected to my other comics.

>>6615855
do you want critiques on this, or do you already have a fairly good idea of where to go next?

>>6615871
I drew that last July so it'sokd, you can do a critique if you. I think I have to work on keep improving anatomy, perspective, backgrounds and becoming more consistent in every panel. All advice, or tips to practice, I appreciate

>>6615976
>it'sokd
it's old

>>6615855
>>6615976
I would look into basic story structure. Get Robert McKee's book, and start using the principles to study well known stories. Master copies, if you will. You'll discover that every story has a clear protagonist, inciting incident, scene structure, crisis decision, and climax. It's very beautiful, how consistently this pattern plays out every time.

I started with Osamu Tezuka's Black Jack. Each chapter is a self-contained story, in 20 pages. Use McKee's principles, which are very basic and fundamental, and start discovering the pattern of well constructed stories.

Take the next 100 days to study 100 chapters of Black Jack. You'll be a much better writer by the end of it. This is how many of the mangakas admitted to studying in the Shonen Jump guide to Manga

>>6616043
Thank you I'll check it out!

Anon's, if I post my enitre script for my 1st chapter on here, would it get stolen? Is it okay for me to post it here?

>>6616543
It will definitely get stolen

>>6616543
>>6616552
What do you think will happen? Someone will come along and do all the actual hard work of drawing the fucking thing? I assure you the people who might actually be capable of that are busy drawing their own things instead of sitting around waiting for someone to post an idea to snatch up.

>>6616543
it's not impossible but very unlikely
since you're asking, this is probably your first script, and anyone creatively bankrupt enough to steal it is already making an isekai instead
>>6616598
>the actual hard work of drawing
lmao

>>6616609
so...you've never drawn anything. great.

>>6616609
>lmao
Lmao what? lmao so true? lmao spending the tens if not hundreds of hours converting script into finished comic page ISN'T laborious work?

>>6616612
>>6616620
if you think either part of the process is the easy or hard part, you're doing it wrong
you can spend just as long or longer on a script as you can on the art

>>6616623
>you can spend just as long or longer on a script as you can on the art
That's funny, I didn't say anything to the contrary. Doesn't matter how long and hard you spent on the script, drawing it is still a long arduous process and you're dreaming if you think somebody is going to come along and do it for free instead of spending all that time on something THEY care about.

Draw CHUD

>>6616628
my bad then, I thought in >>6616598 you were saying the script was the "easy" part
don't throw a fit

>>6616656
Nobody's throwing a fit my dude.

>>6616661
then we're cool?

>>6616667
Ye

>>6613676
finished page.
I inked the characters on the first panel digitally but then inked the rest of the page traditionally. I was way more fun, but it's harder.

>>6613688
thank you!
>>6614233
thank you anon, your stuff is very stylish! is that a webcomic?

>>6613676
finished page.
I inked the characters on the first panel digitally but then inked the rest of the page traditionally. I was way more fun, but it's harder.

>>6613688
thank you!
>>6614233
thank you anon, your stuff is very stylish! is that a webcomic?

17th Japan International Manga Award contest is now open, ends on July 7. Anyone entering?

>>6617131
What’s the point…. Not like I can get serialized from that anyways. Let me know when Marvel wants a manga series

>>6617142
If Marvel wanted "manga" they would probably get one of the many Japanese artists they have already worked with before.

They tried the whole "non-Japanese manga" thing, didn't work because nobody wants to read unauthentic larps.

>>6617154
didn't answer my question

>>6617142
Just go to Image or any publishing company and give them your idea, if they think it's profitable, they'll let you make it.

I have a question to ask.
I have never understood the issue of resolution / pixel / dpi / etc In fact if I have some work to do, the first thing I ask is what resolution/dpi etc they want to get rid of all the problems.

I recently finished a comic and before starting a new one I wanted to complete an old story that I had already started and almost finished a few years ago.
I found various resolutions/dpi/etc. in the pages.
I think they changed automatically or were already wrong at the time I don't know.

The page files I have are with the following dimensions (the pages of the comic are in color)

Pixel dimensions - 2063x3150 pixels
Document size - 28.653x43.75 inches
72 DPI (pixels/inch)

Pixel dimensions - 2063x3150 pixels
Document size - 6.877x10.5 inches
300 DPI (pixels/inch)

I wanted to know if they were good or too low dimensions/resolutions for a possible print?

if they are unusable it is useless for me to waste time completing it.

Thanks.

>>6617194
300DPI is the standard for print.
600 DPI is the standard for posters.

75-100 DPI is the standard for digital only but it's basically irrelevant.

>>6617168
>what's the point
Hard deadline + chance at prize money + a gold medal to put on your shelf.
Don't underestimate the benefit a clear, hard cut submission deadline can have on your ability to finish something in time.
If you don't have any problems with finishing stuff, don't have a desire to compete for prize money or clout and don't believe it'll lead to any steps in your career then I guess you don't have a reason.

>>6617154
If one of the many Japanese artists they have already worked with before wanted a serialization what's stopping them from doing so in Japan?
>They tried the whole "non-Japanese manga" thing, didn't work because nobody wants to read unauthentic larps.
It didn't work because nothing was good enough to make it work. It's purely a skill issue. Authenticity's not the problem, they didn't fail because they weren't made by japanese people, they failed because the work just wasn't good enough and didn't sell enough.

>>6617194
I have no experience in print but conventional wisdom says ~300 is the minimum for print. Much less and it'll look like shit. 72 won't cut it.

>>6617207
>don't believe it'll lead to any steps in your career then I guess you don't have a reason.
I get the first two, but I'm lost on the third one. A career just makes me feel hopeless, plz whitepill me

>>6617210
I mean if somebody who has a position at a publisher sees your work and thinks it's worth contacting you about that could potentially lead you into a publication deal. This kind of thing is why one-shot contests are held in the first place: they're primarily opportunities for junior artists to submit their work for editors to keep an eye out for standout work.
>A career just makes me feel hopeless, plz whitepill me
Getting paid to make comics allows you to do so all the time without starving. If you aren't into doing comics all the time, then going pro probably isn't for you.

>>6617103
Neat~!!!

>>6617103
>>6617234
Ayyup~
https://vampirefortress.my.id/

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>>6591921
>Working for a little while on learning to draw and writing out a story I've had in my head for a few years
>Come up with a "unique" power for the protagonist
>Start reading OPM to learn from Murata
>Homeless Emperor basically has the same power
How common is this? I'm still rolling with it, but I feel like a hack

>>6618659
I mean, they're just plasma balls or smthn, right? Tatsumaki's a telepath, which isn't particularly unique. Just make the overall story twists and turns of your story unique.

>>6617131
I was planning to enter but not sure I'll be able to get anything done by July. How many pages minimum does the one shot have to be? Are there any other rules? I doubt I'll win or be noticed by any sempais but atleast it will be good motivation to create a new comic.

>>6618659
Here's a secret: the only four axises you should judge your character's powers are
>How thematically resonant is it? Does it fit the character using it or have some symbolic element in the story
>How well does it work with the medium? Is it visually striking, is it easily communicated through still images and panels, etc
>How good is it for a fight scene? Being "unique" does not necessarily equal a good fight scene
>Is it a narrative tool outside of a fight scene? If so, is it a tool that you can write WITH, or have to write AROUND?

I heard CSP has tones built in as assets. If it has kakeami style tones like pic related, would anyone be able to do me a favor and just fill in a blank page with it at 300dpi? I can't find any good kakeami tones available online

If tons of manga artists used screen tones for backgrounds which are basically were free to reproduce assets, would it be unethical to scan existing manga for their tone backgrounds and manga flashes and zoom lines?

>>6619112
I think it's okay for flashes and zoom lines, but probably not for backgrounds. Many mangaka go out to take their own pictures, for their backgrounds.

>>6619114
Ya, I know you'd have to be careful, but I do know delter makes generic backgrounds. I wonder if maybe I can buy a lot of old tones, and just scan them in

does anyone here print their own stuff at home? If so , which printer do you use?

>>6618659
>How common is this?
It's very common. "Good artists copy, great artists steal."
But it honestly doesn't matter if your character has the same powers as someone else's character.
Just look at Omni-Man from Invincible and Homelander from The Boys.
They're both pretty much Superman clones but what makes them their own unique character is their personality, how they use their powers and their influence on the plot.

Just make sure your character looks and behaves differently, as well as use that unique power in a slightly different way.

>>6619102
What program do you use?

>>6619102
I looked up "kakeami" in the CSP asset store and I think I found the tone you were looking for.
It also includes other types of tones, probably form kakeami as well?
It does cost 100 clippy though.

https://assets.clip-studio.com/en-us/detail?id=1770124

>>6619102
>>6619443
I also found a free one in the CSP asset store.
Looks similar.

https://assets.clip-studio.com/en-us/detail?id=1720901

>>6619443
Anon doesn't use CSP, which is why he's asking for a pattern
>>6619102
Here is the pattern.
https://www.mediafire.com/file/9k695whtk433h4h/imgonline-com-ua-TextureSeamless-TrYBDSozLVL_%25281%2529.png/file

How many pages a day can you guys draw? Has that number increased over the years?

Would this pass for decent quality webtoon background art? I just took a random google streetview image as inspiration.

It was more of an art test than any major concept or panel (hence the aspect ratio not being vertical)

>>6619605
That's really nice. You could probably sell it in the CSP asset store. Sadly most webtoon readers only spend something like 9 seconds looking at each panel so they won't appreciate it

>>6619609
I'd be happy to give it away for free as long as I got credit. I'm not very good yet compared to other background artists but I wish I just had the chance to show off my work and people would look at it.

Tbh I'm not even in it for the money. I just love doing it.

>>6591921
They are accepting submissions for saturday AM until april 28th https://www.saturday-am.com/summer-of-manga-2023/

>>6619585
Depends on many factors. I've done comics where I drew ~10 pages a day, and I've done comics where I could barely finish 1 a day.

>>6619605
That's more than good enough. The issue would be consistently putting out that quality while maintaining a consistent, frequent and satisfactory update schedule.
>>6619609
>Sadly most webtoon readers only spend something like 9 seconds looking at each panel so they won't appreciate it
Anon that's the case for comics as a whole. You should always keep that in mind when drawing one.

>>6619653
>You should always keep that in mind when drawing one.
This also depends on what your goal is. You can of course make Webtoons throwaway comics, meant to be burned through and forgotten as fast as you can make them, or you can make a quality product that will keep giving you returns as people recommend it and get interested long after you make it

>>6619664
Well, yeah. But you should always remember that quite a lot of your readers, no matter what you're drawing, are not there to peruse the details of every environment. I'm not advocating to half-ass them or to make stuff designed to be forgotten, just advocating to keep in mind the way comics are typically consumed. When a reader is engaged in your story, it's not likely they're going to be lingering on every page to take in the environments, they'll be keen to turn the page and see what comes next. At least, on their first read.

>>6619490
>https://www.mediafire.com/file/9k695whtk433h4h/imgonline-com-ua-TextureSeamless-TrYBDSozLVL_%25281%2529.png/file
Thank you very much!!

>>6619443
kakeami is the name for the traditional hatching in older manga. There's also nawa-ami which looks really cool for moody stuff, but is tricky for me to do with a real pen, and also hatching gradients. https://www.japanesewithanime.com/2020/03/kakeami.html

I dont like how slow I draw, This is probably like 2-3 hours worth of time.
But I do like some of these monster designs and the Mecha is a redraw of an old concept I did.

>>6619796
Sorry it appears I'm retarded

>>6619585
I actually decreased, at my peak of creation, I made a 20-page comic in 2 weeks, while I wasn't drawing all day, I did 3 pages a day at usual.

>>6619585
Trad - 4 hours per page sketch to ink
Digital - 3 hours per page sketch to ink

>>6619798
If it’s digital and you’re used to trad sadly it’s a matter of grinding more again. You’re learning to draw on glass after all.

Does anyone has a good resource/tutorial on how to properly color manga or use halftones that kind of stuff?

>>6620253
Haven't read them in full
https://issuu.com/charliesan763/docs/how_to_draw_manga_vol._30_pen___tone_techniques/s/11626787

https://tips.clip-studio.com/en-us/articles/6198

https://medibangpaint.com/en/use/2023/03/mangatutorialforbeginners15/

>>6620253


https://www.scribd.com/document/451864800/How-to-draw-manga-vol-13-Super-tone-techniques-pdf

Which one is better? This one

>>6620755
Or this one?

>>6620755
>>6620757
Neither honestly. There is little contrast and everything is framed equally.

>>6620823
So make the paneling more dynamic?

>>6620757
in the second picture you lightened the values overall in the top panel and it looks a little more ledgible imo
but how about you try something like making the sign light, the house gray, and the trees very dark. that way you can establish a fore, middle, and background in the panel

>>6619611
Never give away something you are good at for free. People will exploit you, anon.

>>6620828
Make there be less shit on screen. Merge all the forms into simple to grok shapes.

>>6620852
Oh! Ok! I gotcha! Thanks for the advice!

>>6620852
fugg, now I understand what Buscema was talking about in HTDCTMV

>>6620923
>Buscema
>HTDCTMV

>>6620757
This one is better but both honestly have readability issues. Gotta plan your values better -- >>6620846 this guy's got the right idea.

>>6621026
Yeah I got the idea more from >>6620846 after anon explained it. I need to play with my line work a bit more.

>>6620929
How to draw comics the marvel way

>>6602731
Fetishes are a hell of a motivation.

Where do you even get your script critiqued. Like I am writing the first few chapters in script form then will commit to drawing it. Also does anyone have tips on showing personality more through writing?

>>6621243
You could try posting it here

>>6594927
Nta, not anons right to be paranoid, it happens to the best and worst of us.

Next thread doko

>>6622244
知りません!

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