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16160936 No.16160936 [Reply] [Original]

1L of chlorella can fulfill a person's entire daily nutritional needs. You can grow chlorella perpetually as long as you have 8L of chlorella with LED lights.

A person consumed nothing but chlorella for an entire month, with no fluctuations in weight.

>> No.16160948

>>16160936
I highly doubt that 1 Litre of chlorella, that is fresh but without water, will cover your macronutrients.

>> No.16160952

>>16160948
Na bro it's a chinese shitpost those are completely reliable. Just look it up chlorella is only missing like half the required amino acids and the required trace elements pop into existence through quantum fluctuation.

>> No.16160954

>>16160948
Done some preliminary math making some rather crude assumptions. 610 KJ. African diet.

>> No.16161036
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16161036

>>16160952
>>16160952
checked on this and the first source I found implies otherwise regarding essential (I think you mean essential) aminos. Picrel shows data assembled from 4 studies into the subject.
Inb4 someone claims I was suddenly in favour of this: I still believe this is most brainrotted and I dont even understand the incentive behind this. Unless something something space colony weird complicating factors etc.

>> No.16161103

>>16160936
>>16160948
To start with, reminders that 1. you want to break the cell walls before consumption in order to get the nutrition. Just growing it is not enough. and 2. that you'll need to feed it with more than just water and light, it's not like it can spontaneously generate its iron or calcium content, they're literally elementary that would require cold fusion. Not to mention its macronutrient nutritional profile varies wildly based on what you feed it.

With that said, onto the stats:
based on whatever feed the one analyzed here was getting
https://www.medicinenet.com/12_impressive_health_benefits_of_chlorella/article.htm
5 grams (2 teaspoons of powder) is 15 calories.
For the 2200 calorie maintenance diet of the average male, you'd then need to eat about 146 of those, or .44kg / 1lb dry weight of chlorella. I highly suspect that would be more than 1 liter wet at the concentrations seen in the picture.

3 grams of that 5 grams are from protein. so you're getting 264 grams of protein. Which is more than plenty.

The remaining 2 are carbs. I'd imagine the net carbs are much lower though, because a lot of that would be cell wall dietary fiber. Luckily if it's not enough your body can convert excess the protein to sugar through gluconeogenesis, and then that sugar to the necessary fats via lipogenesis.

Which is good because this particular Chlorella doesn't have much in terms of lipids either, though it does have omega 3 and omega 6 fatty acids, which are essential fatty acids the body cannot create on its own.

That 5 grams has 250% of the vitamin b12 you need in a day. Eating 440 grams would mean 22,000% daily value of B12. But it's water soluble you just pee out what you don't use, doses up to 1000mcg aren't considered harmful, even prescribed if you're low, officially there's not even an upper limit, though eventually you do start getting headaches and tummy troubles.

The 10,220% dv of iron, on the other hand, I'm not so sure of. That CAN get toxic.

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>>16160936
yes

>> No.16161213

>>16161106
OP claimed 1 litre, everyone is assuming he means 'fresh' since it would need an awfull amount to yield one dry litre.
Chlorella isnt magically more photosynthetically active than any other plant. As such you can expect to be investing roughly the same (lighting, nutrients etc.) as you'd be investing in any other indoor plantation that is sufficient to sustain you. What OP implied is not sufficient to sustain anyone. If you were for whatever weird reason, like terminal basement dwelling, going to do this then why not at least bring some diversity to the table ?
Also regarsing one anon who explained he fears you might be missing out on essential aminos: While my source indicates something slightly different you'd still have to overfeed on macros and your source doesn't speak to that concern.

>> No.16161217

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pEd5fXERMBc

>> No.16161230

>>16161217 me
and an update because he fucked on the copper or something
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_7ja6xPog4

>> No.16161805

>>16161106
>>16161213
1L is very confusing, but it seems like in adequate amounts, it's sustainable, nutritionally.

>> No.16162118

>>16161805
I have done preliminary crude math on this claim, see above. It is, by orders of magmitude, not feasible to energetically sustain on 1 L of the filtrate. By filtrate I mean chlorella suspension filtered and measured before drying to be 1 liter.
If you were then to go even more mad and consume enough of the filtrate to meet your macronutrient requirements you'd still experience severe deficites in some essential aminos. One anon >>16160952 even claims chlorella was devoid of unspecified essential aminos but has so far not come forth with a source.
Either way, if you then, after setting fire to this 'tism fuelled pile of crap, throw some technetium-99m fresh from the generator in for good measure and consume even more of the filtrate, so you're not only matching your caloric need but also getting adequate supply of the amino chlorella is most defficient in, you'd be severely overeating.

>> No.16162199

I forgot, another very simplistic approach to show if
>scientifically, does this work
lets assume a conversion efficiencs of 1 for everything, light emission from LEDs, chlorella biomass conversion, digestion etc...
let's assume the average male that is not a sedentary obese couch potato requires 4 kwh in food energy or more daily.
This would mean your LEDs need to be at least 170 W if they were running 24/7, or double that if they were running a day and night scheme (many plants require this). You'd then need enough chlorella suspension to achieve normal light flux.
Now since ALL those conversion efficiencies are actually very poor and multiply, I cant think of a single one here that is better than 30%, your LED ends up being huge in power draw.

>> No.16162333

>>16162199
>your LED ends up being huge in power draw.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64cEmjtwRgw

>> No.16162370

>>16162333
This contraption will not even be enough to merely sustain the caloric needs of one human individual.
Also OP explicitly stated the discussion is about using LEDs as the light source.

>> No.16162387

>>16162370
>OP insisted on spending money
whatever

>> No.16163328

>>16160936
>You will drink the algae...
Does that come with the pod?
Otherwise I'd go with Spirulina, given the choice.

>> No.16163337

>>16163328
>Spirulina
I was thinking about making my own as well, mostly because it should be pretty safe as nothing else could survive such high alkalinity

>> No.16163344

>>16162118
Ignore this climate change denier. Solar powered food is the only thing that will save us, independent of whatever his boss is paying him to say.

>> No.16163348

>>16163344
>Solar powered food
literally all food is solar powered anon

>> No.16163466

>>16160936
you VILL drink ze slime

>> No.16164302

>>16160936
it doesn't

>> No.16164838

>>16164302
It does, actually. Snopes debunked this.

>> No.16164886

>>16162387
>>16163344
Imagine replying like this to actual arguments being made. Peak /sci/

>> No.16164898

>>16161103
>2200 calorie, are you doing literally nothing all day or how do you not vanish into thin air (and yes IK you meant kilo cals).
Good point on the iron, pretty much like I also predicted before, if anyone were to adjust this diet so they match their caloric needs they'd still be missing out on alot and aparently overdoing alot too. If they then again adjusted to match the limiting component of this diet they'd not only end up overfeeding but aparently highly oversaturated with some components that are just as toxic in high concentration as they are necessities in correct concentrations.
Now this got me thinking, besides the whole idea still being retarded, how far could you push chlorella into an iron deficite for example to reduce or avoid your own iron excess. Can anyone explain at which point the chlorellas health itaelf would suffer too much for this to work and could we selectively breed for such thing (which should be easy if not even automatic with chlorella and similar species).

>> No.16165041

>>16160952
>He doesn't bioengineer his chlorella with junk proteins to correct the amino acid imbalance
>He hasn't adapted to a zero calcium zero sodium zero potassium zero iodine zero iron zero magnesium diet yet
NGMI

>> No.16165120

>>16165041
Some add some cheap iodized table salt to your yummy algae paste and you've knocked out 2 of those minerals already.