/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Being an idol does not necessarily mean being a good entertainer.

>>33023798
Because she's just being used to shitpost by dramafags. None of them actually want to have to sit through one of her streams. Will be interesting to see what she does when she sees that all her posturing nets her no real growth. What will she try next?

>>33023798
>only hope for EN' Idol purity
Why people start acting like Gura doesn't exist?

>>33023798
>the only hope
Gura is there with her.

>>33023907
>>33023928
Gura doesn't stream unfortunately, so people keep forgetting she exists

>>33023798
chimkin voice, unironically

>>33023798
Nah i have gura
>le she didnt stream
Good, time for my reps then

>>33023798
Because I got Gura

>>33023857
>Kiaraschizo calling others dramafags

Before you get in-depth with the schizo vs. gosling showdown I would remind that Idols don't exists in west for cultural reason

picture related, if you catch my drift

>>33023798
I don't like her roommate and she never follows up on things I get excited about with her. She needs you to love her specifically and isn't happy with you loving content she's in and I can't do that.

>>33023822
Fpbp

>>33023798
>Nakadashi "BBC toy" Kiara
>Pure idol
lmao

Pure idol... should we tell him?

>>33024275
Same, i prefer gura roommate

>>33023798
who is "you guys"? this board probably has 500 people max and that's being extremely generous

>>33025050
Isn't she the most invisible of the Myth roommates? I don't follow her but I wish Kiara were like that at bare minimum.

>>33023798
She got my membership, she may not win a lot of new viewers but I can guarantee you her numbers won't drop, Ame in the other hand...

>>33023857
>nets her no real growth
Your first mistake was assuming she is doing this for growth and not to retain her current audience of gachis.
Your second is failing to notice that Mori's declined since she started pushing the boys.

>>33025123
Well yeah, especially because of that obscurity

>>33023798
EN streamers speaking Japanese filters me. Call me once she dropped the habit.

>>33023798
implying she hasn't been inclining

>>33023798
She is annoying

>>33023798
Myth's subscriber counts mean jackshit. Most of them are bandwaggon jumpers that already fucked off 2 years ago and ended up being dead subs. Out of all of myth, Kiara has the most hardcore fanbase that superchats a lot and will not abandon her. Kind of like Kson. Which in the long term is, as a vtuber is all that matters.

>>33025246
Ame destroyed her own career just to shill for homos. Is it true Kiara won't? Seriously won't? I've heard the same shit before about Ame and Irys we all know how that went for both of them.

>>33023798
the fact that she's lower than Ina is fucking hilarious

>he subscribed

>>33025843
If Kiara was interested in having male collabs she would have had one of the jp holostars on holotalk by now

>>33023798
>ear grating voice
The fucking normal human would close the stream after 2 seconds

>>33026315
Well that's what they said about Ame and Irys before.

>>33023798
there's only like a dozen people posting here

>>33026366
When the fuck did Irys ever collab with males?

>>33026516
Were you living under a rock for the past year?

>>33023798
>OP took unicorn shitposts seriously
everyone point and laugh

>>33027115
>Why aren't you guys doing anything?
>Guys...?

>>33023798
Because I have an idol who doesn’t have a voice comparable to a screeching tire everytime she speaks. Gura is the only option for me.

>>33028202
what annoys me is that kiara when she speaks normall sounds so much nicer... purposefully sounding like that.. ugh

>>33026366
"They" did but for what little it's worth I expected Ame to do exactly what she's done. She has a history of filtering her fanbase and spiting them and she's big on unity.
I used to watch Kiara a lot and I don't think she will for a variety of cynical reasons. She doesn't really want to, there's no numbers reason to try, she has a lot of gachis that she respects having, and she's big on Hololive idol culture.

>>33023798
Ich habe sie abonniert, aber sie hat noch kein Video hochgeladen. :-(

>>33023798
I will if she finally understand how to play aoe2

>>33028305
Same guy, I have no idea why she self sabotages like that. She’s gotta realize it’s a massive debuff to her appeal and almost everyone hates it.

It’s a shame because her model is pure seggs.

>>33026556
Link it.

99% of the people arguing about the issue are not real fans. Both sides are just taking this as yet another outlet for their culture wars. They don't actually care about the talents and barely even watch vtubers.
They are certainly not willing to put their foot where their mouth is and actually support the talents.

>>33023857
she already accepted that she's the bottom in terms of viewership and sub, she's no longer numberfagging

>>33023798
considering even kiara said they aren't idols i don't know why you keep pushing this she's an idol bullshit

>>33023798
I got banned from her chat from sending "alt+f4" while she was asking how to rotate a gate in AOE2.
What is fun watching her?

>>33025548
>most hardcore fanbase that superchats a lot
As surprising as this sounds anon, with the exception of her anniversary stream the other day, Kiara gets about the same superchats as Aia Amare, someone about 1/10th her viewership

>>33023798
More music please chimken

>>33023798
because there's no correlation between idol purity and numbers. Kobo debuted more than a year and a half after Kiara, has talked about having a boyfriend in the past and done multiple streams with males and she has already passed Kiara in subscribers. "Idol purity" (i.e. not doing collabs with males) is something only a sect of /vt/ gives a shit about and the rest of the world could not give two shits.

>>33031827
>I got banned from her chat from sending "alt+f4"
>What is fun watching her?
A lot fun things happen in Kiara streams like for example watching retards get banned for sending "alt+f4" in chat

>>33032751
Fuck off numberfaggot normalfag. You are a hooligan like all that faggots normalfags that watch sports and sports statistics. You only care about numbers and don't care about vtubers. Like the rest of us based gachikois,goslings and unicorns.

>>33032751
>"Idol purity" (i.e. not doing collabs with males) is something only a sect of /vt/ gives a shit about and the rest of the world could not give two shits.
What possesses a man to lie to himself like that?

>>33023798
>being subscribed from any of them

>>33033087
my brother in Christ this is literally a thread about numbers. I don't care about numbers either, my Oshi is Mumei who has half the subscribers of Kiara. But this thread is asking the question of "if idol purity is so important, why hasn't it translated into numbers?" which I answered correctly.
>>33033108
Numbers don't lie. Again, not that I'm a number fag my Owlshi doesn't have the best numbers in the world but thems the brakes

>>33023798
i don't sub to anyone i just use holodex

>>33023798
>Idol purity
LOL
There was nothing pure about Kiara. She was being a yuri shitter since day 1.
She's now between a rock and a hard place and is being passive in order to not make her situation worse. There's no purity at all.

>>33033087
You are actually too stupid for this (bait) thread.

>>33028951
She's aware of people's opinions about her voice and she's sad about it, but after 2 years she's afraid to change it because it would feel like a different character. She talked about this months ago.

>>33028951
Her model has too many stupid hats.
Her clothes are also orange.

>>33023798
everyone already knows about Kiara's youtube channel bug, she said it on members once and even cover released a statement. Her youtube channel has a bug that doesn't display her real subs or viewer numbers, but its stated the it might be closer to Gura's than Mori.
So this kind of posts its actually kind of idiotic, or just being an anti. So take your meds or start watching streams

>>33034616
I'm sorry but her views absolutely do not reflect that

>>33023857
>Thinks she is doing this due to growth reasons, and not because she genuinely has a preference of not doing casual collabs with males
What do you call this, when Kiara has proven that she simply does not care about growing, because else she would jump on the male collab bandwagon and only play Buff games

Heck if she cared about pleasing irony weebs, she would praise Gigguk for his shitty attempt at Moe Moe Kyun

>>33035132
>lacking this much in reading comprehension
NTA but It litterally says that her numbers are bugged too
And yes, she talked about this months ago

>>33035524
How convenient for her.

>>33035383
>>33035618
>oh look an egg
take your meds already and fuck off to discord you tranny

Kiara is the exact opposite of an idol, no matter how hard she tries to phone it in now.

And how is she any more pure than Ina, for example, lol? The latter is not some phony idol that tries to pander to everyone in an intelligence-insulting manner, she comes across as the girl who'd reject everyone in vicinity including you because she keeps to herself and that's the best part about her.

>>33035763
>meds
>discord
>tranny
It must be nice to live so free of thought.

>>33036027
>rent free
meds

>>33032969
kek

>>33023798
i did , i doubt this board has more than 5k unique IPs visits per day though.

>>33032174
Uh...are you just not reading this right or are you stupid?

>>33035976
>Sings like an idol
>Dances like an idol
>Has legitimate idol training
>Knows the idol industry inside and out
>Only shows affection to other girls
>the exact opposite of an idol
Oh no Anon has brain damage

>>33031827
>What is so fun watching her
>Thinks typing Alt+F4 is funny and not obnoxious
Yeah checks out that you would not understand why Kiara is fun to watch

>>33034162
well, kfp? how are you feeling knowing that your oshi would be in a better place without you? imagine a timeline where you are not a spineless piece of shit and actually helping her grow instead of placating her fragile ego while hugging+jerking each other like a fucking loser that is you? you know that she has potential, determination and talent to reach much higger place than what she got now, getting beaten by fucking ina of all people, that boring as all fuck ina who did hololive as a side job, who didnt even be bothered to thanks her sc, who is low energy as all fuck, you pull her down to the shitter with you. you are wasting her. hope its all worth it, kfp. i fucking hope it is.

2 more years btw have fun seething about Orange chimkin

>>33034162
Retard

>>33036902
>hope its all worth it, kfp
It is and I'm very smug about it

>>33036902
what more do you expect us to do? botting her channel views is only going to get her targeted moreso by the algorithm

>>33034616
>>33035524
what is this cope?
WoW kfp are really desperate huh?

>>33024392
>recycling orcschizos dead rrats
lmao

>>33028743
there is an upload this week, krautnigger.

>>33023798
Ina's been increasing the gap.

>>33036902
He's right, kfp should openly antagonize their streamer until their relationship is unsalvageably toxic, like the teakeks have. Look how much Watson has improved herself by doing the opposite of what people tell her to do

>>33024392
she doesnt have sex with blacks, just old asian men for getting connections into the idol scene

>>33034162
wasn't that criticism she got from almost day one? she wouldn't have to change it 2 years later if she just did it at the start

>>33032174
She gets more. 3k on one day and most days she gets 1k and 500 to 800 average with her lowest being the 33 14 and 20. And she didn't stream on those days so it was just people giving her money to give her money.
Aia is averaging around 100 with the occasional 800 to 1k.

>>33023798
I bought her membership for a month to see her reaction to the aniplus cafe and jesus christ she is so whiny in her member streams.

Because her streams STINK!

>>33023798
Whores. All of women are whores.

>>33041303
Teakeks already needed tardwrangling 24/7. The only reason my opinion of Watson has gone down from all this is because she’s proven how bad she is at tardwrangling, and her chat has proven how much they need it.

>>33041532
oh my sweet summer child...

>>33042066
>3k on one day
That is just bleed over from the anniversary stream anon. Obviously.
>most days she gets 1k
No she fucking doesn't. Look at the chart again. She only gets over 1000 on 6 days, not counting her recent anniversary. Aia gets over 1000 on 4 days, and one day she gets 1700. They are pretty damn close.

I'll even do an average. Not including her anniversary stream, Kiara gets on average $600 per day, and Aia got on average $436 per day.

So yes, they are getting roughly similar amounts. And when you consider that Aia has 600 viewers on average, you can start to see the point. That Kiara actually doesn't have such a tight core of support compared to other vtubers. She only seems to have this because you're comparing her to the other hololive girls, who all have extremely low superchats.

>>33023798
Most myth sub are dead sub anyway, does it still even matter nowoday?

>>33041592
I imagine she had a hard time separating anti comments from genuine criticism avout her voice in her early days, and besides her voice wasn't that bad in the early days (when the vtuber boom happened), it got worse after she (ironically) tried to fix it buying a GoXLR and copying Ame's settings because she doesn't know how to use it.

>>33046885
t. retard

>>33023798
>If Kiara really is the only hope for EN' Idol purity, then how come you guys aren't boosting and subbing to her?
but we do. it's just that we are insignificant in the grand scheme of things...

>>33023857
Same as homobeggars that don't actually watch the content they're demanding/trying to defend. In my case Kiara keeps playing games I want to play so I don't want to spoil by watching the streams. I'm not a poorfag like you guys that play games vicariously through streamers.

>>33051132
>muh spoilers
R*ddit mindset.